Cliffalarm: Abled or Disabled? Also how do I get it working?

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roundel

Cliffalarm: Abled or Disabled? Also how do I get it working?

Post by roundel »

First thought, do i even want to get this working? I removed the horn for it, therw it in the parts bin, train horns are cheap and though wow this would be GREAT!

So do you guys have em on or off? i got my car with it not working. Looks like its missing wire number 8, The other 7 go where exactly? lol.
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Post by TSMacNeil »

A high percentage of bizarro electrical problems are attributed to wonky and leftover alarms. I'd take it out.
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Post by Xenocide »

TSMacNeil wrote:A high percentage of bizarro electrical problems are attributed to wonky and leftover alarms. I'd take it out.
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Find all the places it's spliced in and do a professional job of removing it. If you do a half-assed job of it you will hate your life (and more importantly you'll hate your car :lol: ). Grab a copy of the ETM and all the documentation you can find on the alarm system. There were a couple different ones, google the model number and I'm sure you'll find an installation diagram to follow. Do that, just in reverse. If you have to cut wires, be sure to solder and heat shrink them or (if you must) use solder and use high quality electrical tape or butt splices.
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"I'm with you fellows".
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Post by bojangles »

not to be argumentative, (not that I EVER am :P), But I did spend 7 years as an installer of electrical accessories in the 80's
There are some crap components, but crap wiring jobs are just that.. crap. I am 100% confident that the presence of an accessory does not doom the car. It needs to be installed properly. if you have an accessory that is causing your car to mess up, it is the installation work, not the presence of the accessory that is to blame.

fix the problem if there is one.

Clifford alarms ( if this is even what the OP is referring to ) were top of the line alarms that should have been sold through competent shops. e28s were rare then, and it should have been handled by a top installer. I would not arbitrarily call it a problem.
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

bojangles wrote:not to be argumentative, (not that I EVER am :P), But I did spend 7 years as an installer of electrical accessories in the 80's
There are some crap components, but crap wiring jobs are just that.. crap. I am 100% confident that the presence of an accessory does not doom the car. It needs to be installed properly. if you have an accessory that is causing your car to mess up, it is the installation work, not the presence of the accessory that is to blame.

fix the problem if there is one.

Clifford alarms ( if this is even what the OP is referring to ) were top of the line alarms that should have been sold through competent shops. e28s were rare then, and it should have been handled by a top installer. I would not arbitrarily call it a problem.
I am 100% certain that I have seen multiple properly installed aftermarket alarm systems cause issues like battery drains, phantom alarm activations, and even a couple of cases where the faulty component shorted internally and backfed the circuits it was on so that it powered the car with the key out. I have removed about a dozen and have overseen the removal of a dozen more since I left professional wrenching. Regardless of how good they were back in the day, electronics get old and fail and since the aftermarket alarm system must be tied into multiple systems, it can wreak havoc when it does go.
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Post by bojangles »

a stuck or backfeeding relay on an e28? god forbid! LOL

same for circuit boards.... God forbid that we have to reflow solder joints in an alarm module. This might make the ECU circuit board jealous!!! LOL again.
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