Fuel Hose I.D.?

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robeyff
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Post by robeyff »

Anyone know the fuel hose inner diameter - connecting from hard line to fuel rail. My BMW shop not open Sundays so I'll be dealing with whoever's open; specs not in Haynes or readable on hose, vile cretin has not returned Bentley, can't get under the car right now to remove and take with me. I may want to get a smaller diameter hose to avoid this leak in the future. Out of curiosity, has anyone replaced rubber lines/clamps with hard lines and pressure fittings?TIA.
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Post by Kyle in NO »

Its 8x13mm, that is 8mm inner dia. and 13mm outer diameter.

Whole car uses the same size except the feed line from the pre-pump to the main pump, its bigger...
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Post by robeyff »

[QUOTE="Kyle in NO"]Its 8x13mm, that is 8mm inner dia. and 13mm outer diameter.

Whole car uses the same size except the feed line from the pre-pump to the main pump, its bigger...[/QUOTE]
Thanks - have you ever jammed a 7mm to the fuel rail to avoid the chronic leak?
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5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.


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[QUOTE="a"]5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.

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Thanks - possibly wrong size hose currently on, but doubtful - clamps tight (don't want to tighten further and cut hose) and the damper spins like a top and hose turns freely at fuel rail connection - will probably remove damper before installing new hose, 2 less clamps to worry about. Did you see my question about hard lines and pressure fittings to replace hoses/clamps? Ever seen that done?



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a wrote:5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.
I heard Mercedes uses 7.5mm hose, and that it fails prematurely if used on an e28. I'd have no problem using 5/16 hose on an e28, if it were rated for the pressure.

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Post by C.R. Krieger »

[QUOTE="a"]5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="RonW"]I heard Mercedes uses 7.5mm hose, and that it fails prematurely if used on an e28. I'd have no problem using 5/16 hose on an e28, if it were rated for the pressure.[/QUOTE]

Look for "J30R9" (the SAE spec) on the hose. If you ask for "fuel injection hose" that's what they'll usually give you, and it is correct for the pressure.



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robeyff
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[QUOTE="a"]5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="RonW"]I heard Mercedes uses 7.5mm hose, and that it fails prematurely if used on an e28. I'd have no problem using 5/16 hose on an e28, if it were rated for the pressure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="C.R. Krieger"]Look for "J30R9" (the SAE spec) on the hose. If you ask for "fuel injection hose" that's what they'll usually give you, and it is correct for the pressure.

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Thanks, that's what I got, 5/16 (7.9 mm) - fit snug, but still a little too loose for my taste - but they won't be overstretched - I'd still like to investigate replacing hoses/clamps with something less failure prone.
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Post by pdx 528e »

[QUOTE="a"]5/16 Id hose = 7.9mm . Using a 7mm hose will be a real PITA to use. If you managed to get it on , It would fail prematurely, because it has been stretched too much. The 8mm hose is pretty good stuff. Ive used it without clamps and had no problems.

There is a spec for high pressure fuel hose, J 370h or some thing. Napa has it in 5/16.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="RonW"]I heard Mercedes uses 7.5mm hose, and that it fails prematurely if used on an e28. I'd have no problem using 5/16 hose on an e28, if it were rated for the pressure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="C.R. Krieger"]Look for "J30R9" (the SAE spec) on the hose. If you ask for "fuel injection hose" that's what they'll usually give you, and it is correct for the pressure.

[Edit by C.R. Krieger on [TIME]1138119834[/TIME]][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="robeyff"]Thanks, that's what I got, 5/16 (7.9 mm) - fit snug, but still a little too loose for my taste - but they won't be overstretched - I'd still like to investigate replacing hoses/clamps with something less failure prone.[/QUOTE]

Use BMW hose clamps from the dealer. They dont cost that much, and they wont cut up your hoses.
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Post by steve 87 535is »

In addition to the dealer clamps you could get the injection ones from Napa. They work fine for the hoses, better than the cheap clamps.
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Post by alotawatts »

Just an FYI.....The price qoute per foot I got from Napa for 5/16 ($5.+) was more than ordering BMW 8mm fuel line.
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