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Discussion pertaining to positive pressure E28s.
Scottinva
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by Scottinva » Jan 23, 2010 8:35 PM
Ya i'm not really sure, I hope someone better at tuning then myself chimes in.
George
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by George » Jan 23, 2010 8:40 PM
Hey Peter, will VE Live and the latest addition of TS work well with MS1 or is this just a thing for MS2?
I've been meaning to talk to you about upgrading anyway.
George
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by George » Jan 23, 2010 8:45 PM
Just curious how the VE Live works with the code and tables that all. Remember, MS1 uses smaller tables.
Scottinva
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by Scottinva » Jan 23, 2010 8:46 PM
I wondered this too, and from what I am reading an upgrade from ms1 to ms2 is this.
Automatic Mixture Control: This updates the VE table(s) based on EGO feedback as you drive, tuning the engine automatically.
Since Ve live analyzer is using ego feedback, to correct the fuel mixture, i'm not sure how it would work at all with your setup. I would like to be corrected if i'm wrong, just trying to learn.
Shadow
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by Shadow » Jan 23, 2010 8:48 PM
Ms1 you get to work with 8x8 table instead of a 12x12 (ms2).
Scottinva
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by Scottinva » Jan 23, 2010 8:50 PM
Shadow wrote: Ms1 you get to work with 8x8 table instead of a 12x12 (ms2).
I don't see how smaller tables would affect it, but ms1 does not use ego feedback? I would think thats the main problem. I
Shadow
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by Shadow » Jan 23, 2010 8:55 PM
Ego feedback?
Ok, I see what you're asking. You have edited your post.
You do not need to set authority for ego to have live tune work.
I personally turn that crap off while tuning anyway.
If you don't use ego corrections, live tune won't care if
you keep authority at 0.
Scottinva
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by Scottinva » Jan 23, 2010 9:13 PM
How would it do anything without EGO?
George
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by George » Jan 23, 2010 9:19 PM
Yes, MS1 has ego correction and you set the authority control much like you would with Ms2
Shadow
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by Shadow » Jan 23, 2010 9:19 PM
Idk exactly but just a guess.
Because you're not using it.
You're using VE live tune.
Scottinva
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by Scottinva » Jan 23, 2010 9:48 PM
thesixerkid wrote: Yes, MS1 has ego correction and you set the authority control much like you would with Ms2
Well if this is the case, just try the new tuner studio. I can't even think of a conflict you would encounter when reading the changes from ms1 to ms2, if you have a good saved msq, then you won't hurt anything by giving it a try.