Starter Toast?

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M5ZEALOT
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Starter Toast?

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Searched archives and didn't find a definitive answer so....
About a month ago my starter randomly wouldn't work after trying to start car. Paused for a moment and tried again and it worked fine...never thought about it again.

This Saturday while running late for an appointment I heard a loud buzzing noise after start up. I shut off the engine and buzz kept going figured out the starter was still "cranking" but no horrible teeth grinding....just motor buzzing away. I had to disconnect the battery to stop it. After a few minutes I connected battery and starter was fine. It is a Bosch part about 3 years old (replaced during engine rebuild). Original unit lasted over 20 years! Any tips of troubleshooting before spending $200 on a new one? I'm really dreading the removal of my intake system to do the rather simple job. :cry: Thanks in advance.
M5BB
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Post by M5BB »

Sounds like the solenoid is sticking.
The solenoid throws the bendix (gear) into the flywheel which then turns the motor.

I would check your connections at the starter motor and battery. This is where the + (red) cable from the battery hooks to the engine.
Could just be a bad connection or corrosion.

I have heard that the starter motor can be changed with the rights tools without removing the manifold. I have not had to try it as i replaced mine at rebuild like you.
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Post by M5ZEALOT »

Thanks Gary! BTW, I read in the archives that a weak battery can cause these symptoms too but no one really confirmed it. What do you think? (battery is 3 years old too but was discharged at least 3 times because I didn't drive the car much)
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Post by mooseheadm5 »

A weak battery can cause it, and I have also had it happen on a car that hasn't been run for a long time. It could just be a bad unit. The rebuilds are sometimes just not great.
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Post by M5ZEALOT »

Ok guys thanks. I'll check the battery w/ meter and pull the starter. I think I'll go ahead and get a new Bosch one so I don't have to worry about it for another 20 years.
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Post by JBort »

Same problem last year; replaced with an e34 starter.
EASILY replaced only removing air box!
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Post by bojangles »

cant be a weak battery, .. once the car is running, the voltage will be boosted to the alternater level of 14.7 volts.

so if low voltage caused it, it would have to be a bad battery AND a bad alternator.
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