My 1993 E34 Touring with M30b35 and 5spd swap For Sale

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Adam W in MN
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My 1993 E34 Touring with M30b35 and 5spd swap For Sale

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As I mentioned in another thread, I'm interested in moving on and selling this E34 Touring creation I built last year. Probably should have kept my E34 M5 3.8, or bought something more modern as a daily driver. Shrug, hindsight is 20/20 right? The MN winters here are pretty harsh and I'd like to have something more modern (with heated seats) and a warranty. Also my commute is such that the M30 with the chip I'm running doesn't get stellar gas mileage. :)

Here's what I posted on another forum. If you have a competent guy (like Ben Thongsai who built mine or Brett Anderson) build you an E34 Touring with this engine and tranny swap, plus you find a decent wrecked E34 535i 5spd and 525i Touring for the swap, the project will get to $10K in a hurry. That's with no fun mods to the project along the way, and mine has a lot of them. So $14K seems like a lot, but I'm willing to talk if someone is seriously interested and makes me an offer. Pm or email at adw256 at gmail dot com.

I have $19K in to the car including the conversion. Specs:

--New Jersey BMW fleet car the first part of its life (I'm guessing less than 5 years), then California the rest of the time until March 2007)
--188K on chassis
--250K on engine, but engine was fully rebuilt with new everything except pistons and main bearings. Rod bearings replaced, all new seals, new clutch (E28 535i), head redone with new rockers, Alpina B10 m30b35 camshaft, Schnitzer chip, new water pump, all new belts and hoses, new head gasket, new oil pump, new timing chain components. Engine leaks zero oil.
--car has NO rust I can find anywhere. It could use some quality time with a dent wizard person because of door dings. Paint is o.k., but chalky? Could use time with an orbital and waxing I guess.
--hood and front fenders (probably bumper as well) replaced at some point. Carfax shows a minor front end collision a few years ago. The guy who did the 535i and 5spd conversion said it was repaired very well, probably by a BMW body shop paid for by insurance. Fenders and hood have DOT-R stickers
--E12 5-series flywheel (16 pounds I believe) so no dual-mass flywheel any longer.
--Racing Dynamics steering wheel
--850ci four piston brembo front brakes with brand new rotors and Hawk ceramic pads
--E34 M5/540i vented rear brakes with new rotors and Hawk ceramic pads
--new rear subframe bushings, front thrust arms and 750iL bushings 3K miles ago
--UUC short-shift kit
--E34 M5 17x8 wheels without covers included in sale. 235/45/17 Bridgestone S03 tires
--E38 7-series 16x8 basketweaves with Nokian RSi snow tires
--H&R springs with self-leveling rear, Bilstein HD fronts, 3mm spring pads up front
--A/C blows cold, works fine
--Hella smoked euro ellipsoids with McCulloch HID kit installed, city lights wired in
--smoked corners up front, VHT niteshades painted on rear turn signals
--euro E34 bumper trim front and rear (no side markers)
--Redline in the diff and tranny
--LSD rear end (original ratio from the E34 535i donor)
--E34 M5 Touring rear sway bar


Issues
--fan doesn't work on speed 1 for HVAC. I replaced that blue relay in the bmwe34.net faq, but it still didn't fix it
--I just repaired the wiring breaks in the rear hatch. Still can't get rear buttons to work for glass and hatch
--as mentioned, has some door dings
--sunroof works, but is slow and squeaks
--exhaust isn't loud, but might need replacement in another year or two
--driver side back door handle needs to be replaced. Half of the plastic handle is broken off.


Lots of pictures and a writeup about the conversion here:

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Looking for $14K. Make me an offer if you're interested and I'll consider it. Located in St. Paul, Minnesota.
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Adam W in MN
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Post by Adam W in MN »

I bumped this on other forums and reduced the price to $12K. I know $14K was aggressive, but I thought I'd try since it doesn't change that I'm into it for a lot more money than that.

Pm me or email if you're seriously interested in taking over this fun car as its new owner. Maybe we can work something out. If it isn't sold by Springtime, I'll probably try ebay.
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Post by bmwm3n528 »

Can't believe you're selling it!

Another bump for a very cool machine.
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Post by Adam W in MN »

bmwm3n528 wrote:Can't believe you're selling it!

Another bump for a very cool machine.
Yeah, neither can my wife, the most patient woman in the universe. :oops:
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Post by rob6118 »

What is your gas mileage like?? My 85 535i with the m30 got 17-26 with 26 if I kept my foot out of it doing steady 65. So how bad is yours?

And maybe this is a silly question but why didn't you spend the extra 30-40 bucks to replace the main bearings?? :|

I'm looking around for manual e34 tourings but your price still might be a bit high. There is an example in particular on bimmerforums for 6k. Granted it doesn't have the rebuilt motor, and I'm not trying to knock you or anything just letting you know.

Beautiful car and I must compliment you taste. You did an excellent build up.

Rob
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Post by Adam W in MN »

Hey Rob,

My gas mileage around town romping on it is about 13. I can get barely over 20 if I take it easy on the highway. That's a function of the cam, the chip, and the way I drive (and the fact that it's just a heavy car with an M30b35 in there).

I wondered the same thing about the main bearings. Ben Thongsai who built it is literally one of the best in the country (he's a friend of Carl Nelson at La Jolla Independent, and well known in the CCA). I trust Ben's judgement and he said the pistons and mains were fine and in an M30 the mains can go 500K from other anecdotal evidence I've seen from other cars. Believe me, I would have paid the extra money for the main bearings if Ben had said to do so. I can certainly provide his contact info to anyone seriously interested in the car to get his take on the buildup.

The other Touring on bimmerforums (the white on black one by skateparks with the 5spd swap, but still with the 2.5 liter M50 motor) is sold as far as I know.
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Post by unslow »

I can attest to Adam's car and the quality of the work that has been done to it. I went for a ride in it shortly after the transplant was complete and it was shocking to see how hard it pulled with the extra weight from a Touring. And the cam + chip + exhaust give it a slight rumble that makes you do a double-take. A very cool car and you never have to worry about pulling up next to an identical one at the next stoplight.

I can also vouch for Ben's work on anything BMW related. He does all of the work on my M5 and is very well known in the enthusiast community. He also speaks regularly at CCA TechFest and other CCA-sanctioned events. Google his name and you will find a wealth of information on his work.
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Post by jeebus »

cool car. I always wanted to do an e34 touring w/manual and a decent motor. Maybe you'll find the right buyer, but if it ever ends up down to $7-8k, lemme know.
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Post by Euro-M5 »

Adam,

Too sad to see your project being sold, I know the car has a lot of cool stuff $$$$$, It has the Alpina B10 Cam and Alpina B10 chip right?
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Post by muleskinner »

jeebus wrote:cool car. I always wanted to do an e34 touring w/manual and a decent motor. Maybe you'll find the right buyer, but if it ever ends up down to $7-8k, lemme know.
jeebus has hit the nail of brutal reality on the head. The e12 custom for sale is another example of a bunch of money put into a car to make it really nice, but sadly, it's not an investment.

I am in no way disparaging the time, work, time, and effort that has gone into cars like these, but this particular car will sell in the $7-8K range. The reason is that you can buy a "regular" e34 vaagen in decent shape for $3,500-4,500 all day long.

It's just the reality of the market.

Good luck with the sale. It's a killer machine.
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