Euro Airbox for S38 - M5?

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M5ZEALOT
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Euro Airbox for S38 - M5?

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Being advertised for Euro M5 or M6. Can someone clarify? Just when I thought I knew everything about E28 M5s.....

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Thanks for your expertise in advance.
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It will only "fit" one or the other, not both. I've never seen them all side-by-side, so I don't know about the intricacies of the design.

13 71 1 308 023 = Euro M5

13 71 1 311 531= US M5

13 71 1 306 765 = Euro M635CSi up to 2/88

13 71 1 309 765 = US M6 up to 2/88

13 71 1 312 091 = Euro M635CSi & US M6 from 2/88
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Post by M5ZEALOT »

Well, I have Euro headlights and if I recall I was not able to put the OEM US headlight cover/intake "snorkel" back on because the headlight wiring/connectors were too long. :oops: I just have it open and have a fabricated shield to keep hot air from being sucked into the box.

So will this box benefit my set up?
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Post by mtrspt5 »

M5ZEALOT wrote:Well, I have Euro headlights and if I recall I was not able to put the OEM US headlight cover/intake "snorkel" back on because the headlight wiring/connectors were too long. :oops: I just have it open and have a fabricated shield to keep hot air from being sucked into the box.

So will this box benefit my set up?

This is the box that is on my 1985 euro m5. The US boxes are diferent. They dont have the snorkel. I would think that you want to try to get the euro box for your setup, if I understand your situation.
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Post by Karl Grau »

I assume that is one of the two being sold by Autobahn here in Sandy Eggo.
I was considering one and asked Rich about it since he has a Euro. He thinks it's a 'downgrade' and I agree.
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Post by Philo »

Split second sells a 4" flange that bolts onto the same side/area as the small plastic intake horn and doughnut on the US M5 airbox. Then you buy a short piece of 4" silicone hose and you now have a nice big fat 4" intake ! The plastic horn piece just unscrews from the plastic cover that goes behind the driver's side headlights. The hole needs no modifications., the hose slips right in. A bit tight.., but does fit.

This is what I have on my car., let me know if you want me to post pics.
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Philo wrote: This is what I have on my car., let me know if you want me to post pics.
In for pics! Thanks.....
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I'm sure it would be considered a downgrade. I'm just trying to keep my car stock.
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Post by L_N_Love »

Is the U.S snorkle still available? I can't find it on RealOem. My car is missing its snorkle. :bawl:

Philo...would like to see photos of your setup.
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L_N_Love wrote:Is the U.S snorkle still available? I can't find it on RealOem. My car is missing its snorkle. :bawl:

Philo...would like to see photos of your setup.
Ours don't have a snorkel. There's supposed to be a foam ring or doughnut between the box and the plastic headlamp cover.
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Post by L_N_Love »

Karl Grau wrote:
L_N_Love wrote:Is the U.S snorkle still available? I can't find it on RealOem. My car is missing its snorkle. :bawl:

Philo...would like to see photos of your setup.
Ours don't have a snorkel. There's supposed to be a foam ring or doughnut between the box and the plastic headlamp cover.
My previous "euro-converted" M5 had some sort of short straight snorkle that came off the headlight cover and a foam donut before the air box. I figured it was stock,but, they were euro headlights. My current US Spec M5 is missing the headlight cover and there is just a large hole in the front of the air box.
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Post by MicahO »

L_N_Love wrote:
Karl Grau wrote:quote]Ours don't have a snorkel. There's supposed to be a foam ring or doughnut between the box and the plastic headlamp cover.
My previous "euro-converted" M5 had some sort of short straight snorkle that came off the headlight cover and a foam donut before the air box. I figured it was stock,but, they were euro headlights. My current US Spec M5 is missing the headlight cover and there is just a large hole in the front of the air box.
My US airbox, with the snorkle and donut you describe, is fitted to my car with Euro headlights. With the Euro headlights, there is little-to-no clearance for the trim panels behind the headlights, but it does all fit.

My donut is seriously deteriorated, but it's there, on the snorkle. (I like how that word looks. Snorkle. Even better with a capital S.)
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MicahO wrote:[
My US airbox, with the snorkle and donut you describe, is fitted to my car with Euro headlights. With the Euro headlights, there is little-to-no clearance for the trim panels behind the headlights, but it does all fit.
That's how mine is too. I guess I just wasn't considering the tube on the headlamp panel a Snorkel (note new spelling :D ). I guess I will start referring to it as a Snorkel. Not because I think that's what it is, but because I like using 'Snorkel' so much. :laugh:
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Karl Grau wrote:(note new spelling :D )
Dang I was totally spelling that wrong. Duh. Apparently I need to spend more time snorkeling! Or motorboating!
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Motorboating? Better bring the snorkel. :laugh:
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Here's a pic of Marc Norris' car from 5er Fest 2004. This is where I got the idea from. His car is running split second so uses a Ford MAF body. The flange I'm talking about is on the inlet side and adapts to 4" silicone hose that sticks through the plastic cover behind the driver's side headlights.

http://phil.files.infostreet.com/5erFes ... 250081.JPG
http://phil.files.infostreet.com/5erFes ... 250082.JPG

Let me know if you need more info.
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Post by M5ZEALOT »

L_N_Love wrote:Is the U.S snorkle still available? I can't find it on RealOem. My car is missing its snorkle. :bawl:

Philo...would like to see photos of your setup.
They only show the Euro box w/ snout! on RealOEM.com. No US snorkel/headlight cover shown

Thanks for pics philo. I'm in between air box/ intakes right now. I've tried everything including a custom K&N cone filter set up (hold the rotten tomatoes please) From "seat of the pants" testing my "swiss cheese" treatment of my airbox seems to work best. I'll leave it at that..... :oops:
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Philo wrote:Here's a pic of Marc Norris' car from 5er Fest 2004. This is where I got the idea from. His car is running split second so uses a Ford MAF body. The flange I'm talking about is on the inlet side and adapts to 4" silicone hose that sticks through the plastic cover behind the driver's side headlights.

http://phil.files.infostreet.com/5erFes ... 250081.JPG
http://phil.files.infostreet.com/5erFes ... 250082.JPG

Let me know if you need more info.
Sorry to bring up an old thread. Would you have anymore info on this US airbox to Euro headlight snorkel setup?
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not sure what other info you're looking for, feel free to email me at [email protected] and we can continue the conversation.
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Am in the process of doing a US to EURO bumper and light conversion. I'm interested in the info on this thread. Looks like I'll need to make some sort of modification to my existing box to accommodate the Euro lights
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Philo wrote:not sure what other info you're looking for, feel free to email me at [email protected] and we can continue the conversation.
YGM
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BonitaBeast wrote:Am in the process of doing a US to EURO bumper and light conversion. I'm interested in the info on this thread. Looks like I'll need to make some sort of modification to my existing box to accommodate the Euro lights

Me too and any info that can be shared here would be greatly appreciated.
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I didn't make any modification to the airbox on my car nor did I have to modify the panels behind the lights when I went Euro-lights. IIRC they fit 'snug' against the back of the bulb housings for the euro bulbs, but they do fit and required no mods.

There may be different parts available, but it doesn't seem to be a requirement, certainly not for proper operation.
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MicahO wrote:I didn't make any modification to the airbox on my car nor did I have to modify the panels behind the lights when I went Euro-lights. IIRC they fit 'snug' against the back of the bulb housings for the euro bulbs, but they do fit and required no mods.

There may be different parts available, but it doesn't seem to be a requirement, certainly not for proper operation.
Looks like I don't need to make any modifications either. Test fit the lights yesterday with the plugs in place. Snug fit as well but no mods needed, fortunately
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