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OT: Where to find E23 eye candy?

Posted: Sep 28, 2010 11:32 PM
by Dave McLaren
Where are all the top-notch E23s? If you read this, Ron, it's that silver 745 on RXIIs that got me ruminating on E23s. Thanks, dude, like I need another slippery slope project. ;)

I'd love to see some well done 745s in the resto-mod vein. I'm thinking staggered 18" BBS/Alpina/Hartge wheels, H&R/Eibach/Bilsteins, manual trans swap, built motor with increased boost... basically kind of thing I'd build.

Dave

Posted: Sep 28, 2010 11:36 PM
by T_C_D
I really like e23s but you will be dissappointed in the stock turbo setup. You know what you will need to do. ;)

Here is a picture of my last one.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2010 12:45 AM
by Dave McLaren
LOL yeah, Todd, that's what I'm talkin' bout. Got some more pics and info on that beast? Blue would be my number one choice. What is that, Arktisblau? I love Arktis and Royal, so tasty.

Of course you know I've clicked on all those 745 upgrades on the TCD site. Many times.

I have a thing for big silly 7ers. Why else would I swap a manual trans into an E38 740iL? With an E23, I imagine it would be easier and cheaper. Do some suspension, wheels, uncork the power, maybe do some iS/M5 seats...

Dave

Posted: Sep 29, 2010 1:46 AM
by alijonny
T_C_D wrote:I really like e23s but you will be dissappointed in the stock turbo setup. You know what you will need to do. ;)

Here is a picture of my last one.

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WOW Todd, you have good taste. Who has that car now? I plan to get the style 5's on my e23 soon here. My e23 is a rusty driver with a couple mods. Todd, do you know a guy by the name Steven Cotsirilos? apparently he built my 745 a number of years back. He lives in Wilmette, IL.
here's mine:
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Posted: Sep 29, 2010 2:13 AM
by Mike W.
http://bmwturbos.scottiesharpe.com/topi ... IC_ID=3351

The guy who runs it used to post here some, Scottie Sharpe, he had an M5 for a while at least. I don't know how active it still is, but last I knew it was the source for E23 info.

Posted: Sep 29, 2010 6:56 AM
by RonP
Dave,

Sorry to have wrecked you, I had no intention of doing so! Why don't we snag that Cobalt Blue car away from Ron, paint it, wheel it down, and put a B35 with a TCD Stage 2 in it. The car already has sport seats and working a/c! I know he wants to sell it and it could be had for cheap.....just a thought.

Posted: Sep 29, 2010 8:36 AM
by vance
Yea, there is something about a nice e23. TCD upgrades will be happening to one of my cars in the New Year if not both.

Vance

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 12:09 AM
by Dave McLaren
Mike: Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately the 745i.com and the wiki thing he made from it bmwwikiwiki.com appear to be both gone. :(

Ron: Yeah, I did contemplate that car after we were chatting there near it. I'm thinking that if I do one of these I'd like to start with something nicer. Not like I'm in a hurry, as the E30 project is moving so damned glacially. For the next car I don't want to ready-fire-aim. I'd rather get familiar with the E23, see what people are doing, kinda keep an eye on sweet examples which may be registered in CA. Some other poor bastard who dumped a crapload of money into a 745i orgasmatron might need to sell and take a hit in the wallet and another in the groin from his wife. I could bring him a check and an ice pack.

At least there are killer E28s changing hands in CA every year so that would be pretty easy. There's always something interesting in Perryland. :D

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 12:18 AM
by RonP
Dave,

The problem I always see with e23s is they seem to be the un-loved by many owners and they just drive them into the ground. Every 745i I have looked at to buy had MAJOR issues. The only one that I have seen that was half way decent is now in the hands of one of the zembers here for north of $17k....and he happily paid it. It was a Schwartz executive with Anthricite buffalo leather with just over 61k on it. This is why I suggested the Cobalt car. Your basis would be low, the a/c works (which is a major feat in itself), sport seats and a rust free platform. Put in a new dash, paint, and a B35 with a TCD stage 2 with a 5 speed and you would be in the car around $12k and it would be a monster!

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 12:40 AM
by alijonny
my 745 was owned by some real pieces of work (including myself). It's unfortunate the car ended up in such poor shape, but I have done all kinds of things to bring it back up to where it is currently. I doubt the car will be valued at anything over $5k even after dumping time and money into it just because of the rust. I really like the car, it has grown on me in a bad way. :dunno:

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 1:02 AM
by Mike W.
Dave McLaren wrote:Mike: Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately the 745i.com and the wiki thing he made from it bmwwikiwiki.com appear to be both gone. :(
No, it's still there, it has posts even as recent as today. I'm not sure how much eye candy is in there, but the site is still active.

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 1:16 AM
by wkohler
All the E23 Eye candy is at Eric Quon's house. LOL.

Re: OT: Where to find E23 eye candy?

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 10:54 AM
by rlomba8204
Dave McLaren wrote:Re: OT: Where to find E23 eye candy?
Perhaps the junkyard?


(Sorry I couldn't resist. I had a love hate relationship with my old E23, although there are many folks here who like them. I guess we all need a certain amount of pain and anguish in our lives, because what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.)

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:30 AM
by WilNJ
T_C_D wrote: Image
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RonP wrote:Dave,

The problem I always see with e23s is they seem to be the un-loved by many owners and they just drive them into the ground. Every 745i I have looked at to buy had MAJOR issues. The only one that I have seen that was half way decent is now in the hands of one of the zembers here for north of $17k....and he happily paid it. It was a Schwartz executive with Anthricite buffalo leather with just over 61k on it. This is why I suggested the Cobalt car. Your basis would be low, the a/c works (which is a major feat in itself), sport seats and a rust free platform. Put in a new dash, paint, and a B35 with a TCD stage 2 with a 5 speed and you would be in the car around $12k and it would be a monster!
Ron, you're a wicked enabler. I need to stash a couple of bucks and then we need to talk.

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 11:43 AM
by RonP
Ron, you're a wicked enabler. I need to stash a couple of bucks and then we need to talk.
HEHEHEHE!!! Okay :D

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 4:39 PM
by M. Holtmeier
Not all 745i owners are running thier cars into the ground. This one has the TCD turbo hardware on it, converted to a 5 speed(g265), the hvac system works, and the interior is somewhat sorted. It's not perfect, but the longer I own it, the nicer it gets.

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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 4:55 PM
by vance
You got it looking great Mike!

Vance

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 5:56 PM
by Kenny Blankenship
wkohler wrote:All the E23 Eye candy is at Eric Quon's house. LOL.
I don't count. He wants to see 745s... ;)

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 5:59 PM
by Brad D.
Mike, I love the Nardi wheel.

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 7:36 PM
by Blue Shadow
Kenny Blankenship wrote: I don't count. He wants to see 745s... ;)
Mine is out, too, same reason.

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 8:31 PM
by 87royal
RonP wrote:The problem I always see with e23s is they seem to be the un-loved by many owners and they just drive them into the ground. Every 745i I have looked at to buy had MAJOR issues. The only one that I have seen that was half way decent is now in the hands of one of the zembers here for north of $17k....and he happily paid it.
Does that include Steven's? Thought his was available to you.

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 8:51 PM
by Mr Project
(Mike, you going on the Loess hills trip? I'd love to get a better look at your car and talk about your shifter and MS setup....)

Ok, mine's not a 745i either, but it's an E23 and it has a turbo hanging off one side of the motor, so I get partial credit, right?

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Posted: Sep 30, 2010 9:17 PM
by RonP
Does that include Steven's? Thought his was available to you.
Not any longer! Tata says "no more selling cars"!!!

Posted: Sep 30, 2010 9:53 PM
by kway
You need to buy mine. Won't officially be for sale until next spring though...

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The most recent pic. Walking out of the garage and the way it was sitting there just struck me. Had to snap a quick one with the phone.

Bone stock and cold A/C, so a perfect starting point! :dead:

I agree, Arctic Blue is gorgeous. It's a toss up with Jet Black as my favorite e23 color.

Posted: Oct 01, 2010 12:09 AM
by Dave McLaren
Wow, thanks guys.

Mike - Whoa, you're right. I'm not even going to try to figure out how I failed that, other than to speculate that it's not for lack of internet experience, but early onset of Alzheimer's. At this stage it's still CRS syndrome.

Ron - I've got to let that one ride. I'd just buy a clean E28 first. I'll do that anyway sometime, but I'm in an exploratory mindset on the E23. I do wish that blue one would go away and quit haunting me, though.

Vance - love your car. The stance (why is it hard to use that word these days?), the wheels, it's got it goin' on.

Holtmeier - stunning car. Alpine, Buffalo, the Nardi, manual, TCD... just the kind of thing I have in mind.

Kenny and Blue - while I'm into 745s for the power potential, I'd like to see any well-done E23.

Project - full points awarded. Those look Racing Dynamics, and I love those. Sexy.

kway - staggered M-Pars are really working on your car. Fantastic. I wanted to see some larger but aesthetically appropriate wheels, and there you go.

Thanks, everyone. I kinda hope this thread will keep delivering more E23 goodness.

Dave

Posted: Oct 01, 2010 12:17 AM
by M. Holtmeier
Mr Project wrote:(Mike, you going on the Loess hills trip? I'd love to get a better look at your car and talk about your shifter and MS setup....)
I should be all set to go by then. If LJ is still having trouble with his, I told him he can drive the 7.


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Every time I see pics of this car = Damn! :shock:



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Posted: Oct 01, 2010 1:39 AM
by alijonny
damn not even an honorable mention...

:D

Posted: Oct 01, 2010 6:06 AM
by johnnye23
Well Vance has got my E23 right now rebuilding the A/C system and I have his latest E23 that I am doing some bodywork in trade for.
I love the E23 745i executive models . But I think I would be happier to find a nice Euro E23 5 speed car and put manual E30 sport seats in it and purchase a complete kit from Todd for the boost side of it.
In its day the 745i was a badass car but with today's technology ( read TDC here) you can build a better more dependable and FASTER car. So many more upgrades can be sourced today . See now I am getting the E23 fever again...

Posted: Oct 01, 2010 11:26 AM
by kway
Dave McLaren wrote: kway - staggered M-Pars are really working on your car. Fantastic. I wanted to see some larger but aesthetically appropriate wheels, and there you go.
Thanks! And to think I considered putting M Contours on it at one point. <blech>

Then the 740i Sport came out and I was like there you go, THOSE are my wheels!
M. Holtmeier wrote:Every time I see pics of this car = Damn! :shock:



Thank you sir! Gonna be hard letting this one go, but it's time.

Posted: Oct 01, 2010 5:10 PM
by Kenny Blankenship
Kenny and Blue - while I'm into 745s for the power potential, I'd like to see any well-done E23.
Ohhh...OK. Mine aren't as "radical" as the other examples:

This one has Euro bumpers now...
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I also have an '82 Sapphire Blue sharknose 733i. Don't have a good pic of that yet.