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Got broad sided today...
Posted: May 20, 2009 8:25 PM
by 1st 5er
Is this something I caught on the board here. I'm thinking it's contagious.
I, literally, got knocked out of driving my E12 to 5erFest this year.
Thank God no injuries physically, my emotions took a pretty good hit though.
The worst part, it was my stinking fault. The sheriff was generous and wrote me a warning instead of a ticket.
The best part, see the rust, that'll be gone when I get the body work done.
In settling with my insurance carrier, got an appointment with the adjuster on Friday,
what separate $ amount should I expect to compensated for either replacement of
or the refinishing of the wheel, pic #3?

Posted: May 20, 2009 8:40 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
What are they valuing your car at? I'm afraid they'd total my E12.
Glad you are alright, you can get everything fixed up!
Posted: May 20, 2009 8:42 PM
by 1st 5er
Won't know any details until Friday.
What about the wheel?
Posted: May 20, 2009 8:46 PM
by stuartinmn
Is the wheel bent, or just scraped? If it's just a cosmetic repair I'd say $100-$150 to fix.
edit: The car is still driveable, isn't it? No reason you can't still attend 5erFest, no one's going to kick you out for having a dented car.
Posted: May 20, 2009 8:48 PM
by 1st 5er
stuartinmn wrote:Is the wheel bent, or just scraped? If it's just a cosmetic repair I'd say $100-$150 to fix.
It's got a pretty good gash, haven't had it off yet to see if bent.
Posted: May 20, 2009 8:50 PM
by Mark 88/M5 Houston
Can you jack that corner up and use some sort of a feeler to check for lateral run out to see if it is bent?
I would think the biggest problem will be getting the correct shade of silver if it is refinished. You could try to get the adjuster to buy off on refinishing all four so that they match.
After the adjuster looks at it you might want to try a mild compound on it to try to get the transferred paint off of it.
Posted: May 20, 2009 9:07 PM
by 1st 5er
Not bent.

Posted: May 20, 2009 10:31 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
You have comprehensive on the car?
Posted: May 20, 2009 10:41 PM
by 1st 5er
JoshInAtlanta wrote:You have comprehensive on the car?
Oh yeah, full coverage, comp., collision, liability, uninsured motorist.
Since I'm at fault, it's a claim against my collision.
Posted: May 20, 2009 10:44 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
swatterssr wrote:JoshInAtlanta wrote:You have comprehensive on the car?
Oh yeah, full coverage, comp., collision, liability, uninsured motorist.
Since I'm at fault, it's a claim against my collision.
I only had liability through my regular insurance. My insurance company told me no matter how much I had invested, my car was only worth a few hundred dollars to them. They told me ANY claim would result in my car being totaled.
It's still hard to prove much about these cars until (and if it even happens) they start going up in value and trade hands enough to prove that.
Posted: May 20, 2009 10:45 PM
by ldsbeaker
Dude.
I have to stay away from this site.
Okay, that tears it. No pictures on mye28. That seems to be the curse. WTF?
Stikrz
Spastic
Skip
Sherman
I'm sure I'm missing a couple of the other big hitters here...
Posted: May 20, 2009 10:52 PM
by ScottWL38
Try a collector's policy from a company like Haggerty's. Inexpensive if you don't drive the car much and you can get an agreed value to the car. If it's a daily driver, probably wouldn't work.
Posted: May 20, 2009 11:08 PM
by 1st 5er
I've got no problems either way.
I'll be compensated for the damage, buy some rubbing compound, and get out the buffer, and get 'er done!
I suspect I'll receive, after the deductible, close to what I actually paid for the car, maybe even more, and then...
...
from the parts car I picked up, a little cutting, a little welding,
a little help from my friend with the prepping and painting, and even the rust will be gone.

Posted: May 20, 2009 11:08 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
ScottWL38 wrote:Try a collector's policy from a company like Haggerty's. Inexpensive if you don't drive the car much and you can get an agreed value to the car. If it's a daily driver, probably wouldn't work.
+1, just make sure to tell them if you have changed anything on the car... like wheels. Made a difference in my rate

Posted: May 20, 2009 11:19 PM
by 1st 5er
ScottWL38 wrote:Try a collector's policy from a company like Haggerty's. Inexpensive if you don't drive the car much and you can get an agreed value to the car. If it's a daily driver, probably wouldn't work.
My ultimate goal was to get everything sorted, including the bodywork needed prior to this incident,
and then retire it to Haggerty status, and then start on another one in my herd.
So this incident is really a positive thing as mentioned in the OP.
I just wasn't expecting someone else to pull the trigger for me on when the body work would be done and then help pay for it.
It's all good, really.

Posted: May 20, 2009 11:57 PM
by 87royal
swatterssr wrote:
What about the wheel?
Get rid of them, and buy those style 4's.
Posted: May 21, 2009 11:08 AM
by HOVER
THAT SUX !

Posted: May 21, 2009 11:19 AM
by shagrath
ldsbeaker wrote:Dude.
I have to stay away from this site.
Okay, that tears it. No pictures on mye28. That seems to be the curse. WTF?
Stikrz
Spastic
Skip
Sherman
I'm sure I'm missing a couple of the other big hitters here...
Your avatar doesn't start with an "S". You're ok!

Posted: May 21, 2009 3:25 PM
by Adam W in MN
JoshInAtlanta wrote:
I only had liability through my regular insurance. My insurance company told me no matter how much I had invested, my car was only worth a few hundred dollars to them. They told me ANY claim would result in my car being totaled.
It's still hard to prove much about these cars until (and if it even happens) they start going up in value and trade hands enough to prove that.
They are telling you in no uncertain terms that you need to get collector insurance on your e12.
Posted: May 21, 2009 5:23 PM
by JoshInAtlanta
Adam W in MN wrote:JoshInAtlanta wrote:
I only had liability through my regular insurance. My insurance company told me no matter how much I had invested, my car was only worth a few hundred dollars to them. They told me ANY claim would result in my car being totaled.
It's still hard to prove much about these cars until (and if it even happens) they start going up in value and trade hands enough to prove that.
They are telling you in no uncertain terms that you need to get collector insurance on your e12.
Yep!
I have a hard time justifying comprehensive on a car this old at my age. Collectors is a no-brainer.
Posted: May 24, 2009 10:39 PM
by 1st 5er
Kept my appointment with the adjuster, but didn't walk away with a check.
Their estimate couldn't be completed as the E12 is not in their database,
and this is Allstate I'm dealing with, so no specific parts and/or labor cost are readily available.
She tried, but a rear quarter panel couldn't be sourced locally.
I even had her call
Bavarian Auto Recycling, they said not available through them.
I'm going to have to get independent estimates and go from there.
Posted: May 27, 2009 12:18 PM
by 1st 5er
Spoke with a couple of shops yesterday, and got some hard repair quotes.
Replacing the quarter, estimates ran from $1,900 to $2,500.
I called the adjuster, who had with leaving out the quarter panel price, estimated almost $1,500 to repair,
said they valued the car at
NADA's Average Retail Value of $3,375, I was certainly surprised by that information,
then said if the shop of my choice could do the work and stay within the $2,500 range it wouldn't be a problem.
They could do that and not total out the car.
Yippee!!!
Yeah John,
the SoCal guys way would be nice, but my insurance company won't come off their estimate until quoted differently from the repair shop.
We'll see how things play out...
I'll post the final outcome.
Keep the cards and letters coming. NO! On second thought,
"Don't clap, throw money".
Posted: Aug 22, 2009 6:00 PM
by 1st 5er
I've not been in any real big hurry since the car is still drivable and I use it as my DD.
However, I took the car to the shop last week and left it so the insurance company adjuster could discuss with the shop owner the additional charges.
After the adjuster looked at the car and the repair bill he started crawfishing as to car's value vs. repair bill.
Said he recommended turning it over to the total loss department.
They in turn told me the car had a retail value of $1,885.00.
I told them, "no way, since I'd previously been told, by one of their own people, thank God for recorded conversations, that the car's value was $3,375.00".
I had to get an independent appraiser's assessment, used the one recommended and paid for by the insurance company, so we could come to some agreement as the retail value and thus they could make a determination as to how to handle the claim.
Got some good news Friday as to the appraiser's bottom line.
He came up with a valuation of $3,250.00.
Hopefully this next week the insurance company will receive this info and make a final proposal in my favor.
Posted: Aug 22, 2009 6:08 PM
by tschultz
Hey thats good, thanks for updating us! Are you going to be able to have the car fixed and walking away with some cash?
Posted: Aug 22, 2009 6:16 PM
by 1st 5er
tschultz wrote:Hey thats good, thanks for updating us! Are you going to be able to have the car fixed and walking away with some cash?
I plan on taking the cash, stripping the car, doing the repairs my self,
with
some coaching and help from a really good friend,
putting in the five speed while it's apart,
getting the whole car resprayed, and then driving it like I stole it.
My fingers are crossed...
Posted: Aug 22, 2009 6:45 PM
by Xenocide
Damn man, can't believe I missed this thread, sorry to hear that...
Sounds like you've things in motion to get it back to normal though.
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 11:32 PM
by 1st 5er
Got a call from the insurance company today.
Here are the details:
Appraised value by independent appraiser - $3,250.00
Salvage value - $500.00
My deductible - $500.00
They are in fact totaling the car and allowing me to buy it back for the salvage value, and it won't have a salvage title.
According to the adjuster they'll be putting me a check in the mail tomorrow for $2,250.00.
Man, am I a happy camper!!!

Or at least will be when I get the check.
Now I know it's true, "I'm in good hands".
Posted: Aug 26, 2009 7:31 AM
by stevgtguy
stikrz wrote:ldsbeaker wrote:Dude.
I have to stay away from this site.
Okay, that tears it. No pictures on mye28. That seems to be the curse. WTF?
Stikrz
Spastic
Skip
Sherman
I'm sure I'm missing a couple of the other big hitters here...
Your avatar doesn't start with an "S". You're ok!

But mine does!
And
here is my accident thread.
Posted: Aug 26, 2009 9:50 AM
by 1st 5er
stevgtguy wrote:stikrz wrote:ldsbeaker wrote:Dude.
I have to stay away from this site.
Okay, that tears it. No pictures on mye28. That seems to be the curse. WTF?
Stikrz
Spastic
Skip
Sherman
I'm sure I'm missing a couple of the other big hitters here...
Your avatar doesn't start with an "S". You're ok!

But mine does!
And
here is my accident thread.
This is just too funny... I really did chuckle out load, and no one is in the room but me.
If this keeps up the Beamters will start getting request for username changes.
Posted: Aug 26, 2009 9:54 AM
by stevgtguy