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where to buy tappett tool?

Posted: Jul 18, 2007 7:40 PM
by bimmerboy
I need to adjust the valves, where can i buy the tool?
Thanks

Posted: Jul 18, 2007 7:51 PM
by Duke
What you need is - BMW113-150 (S38), BMW113-070 (M30)

Sold here - Click

For - you have to call them.

Posted: Jul 18, 2007 9:38 PM
by Kyle in NO
Look in your closet, you probably have several with shirts hanging on them...

Posted: Jul 18, 2007 9:46 PM
by lkfoster
For a SOHC engine you need a 10mm box end wrench (in the trunk tool kit), feeler gauges (don't remember thicknesses, but metric), and either a coat hanger as Kyle mentions or a small allen wrench to rotate the eccentric. You also need some means of turning the crankshaft, though pushing it in top gear works if it's a manual.

DOHC engines are different.

Posted: Jul 18, 2007 9:58 PM
by BMWCCA2
Welding rod makes a nice tool. I never liked the angles on the "factory" tool, so I've always made my own. I think the best one I made was from the center rod on a BMW fuel tank sending unit, with a very slight grind to the end for a perfect fit. Some sort of stainless steel I guess.

Posted: Jul 19, 2007 12:54 AM
by bimmerboy
no coathangers here, thats for the 2002 :D which dont even have tappets, no?

I need it for my dad's m5.

Posted: Jul 19, 2007 2:17 AM
by paddylopez
bimmerboy wrote:no coathangers here, thats for the 2002 :D which dont even have tappets, no?

I need it for my dad's m5.
I think I just heard my soon-to-be-purchased 2002 crying somewhere.

Hater.

Posted: Jul 19, 2007 2:43 AM
by lkfoster
I have a factory tool that cost an obscene amount of money 15 years ago. It's advantage is that it has properly hardened surfaces that bear on the buckets. I've seen some aftermarket tools that wear pretty quickly.

In addition to the tappet depressing tool you'll either need an ice pick or an air compressor with a blow-off gun to get the shims out. I use the former because I don't have the latter. That, and I don't like the idea of blowing oil all over.

You'll also need a micrometer or set of calipers if the stenciled shim thickness isn't visible.

Posted: Jul 19, 2007 4:23 PM
by BMWCCA2
bimmerboy wrote:no coathangers here, thats for the 2002 :D which dont even have tappets, no?

I need it for my dad's m5.
Sorry, your sig line confused the issue. Probably cheaper to pay someone with the tools to do the job since you'll probably need more shims than you're willing to buy to get it set right.

A 2002 rocker certainly qualifies as a tappet, under this definition, but maybe not the M5!
tap·pet (tāp'ĭt) Pronunciation Key
n. A lever or projecting arm that moves or is moved by contact with another part, usually to transmit motion, as between a driving mechanism and a valve.

Posted: Jul 20, 2007 1:05 PM
by bimmerboy
Don't worry, i love the '02 far more than you and will never hate on it. Truth betold i even have the valve tool for it.

But I would much rather buy the tool than pay someone to do it. I've stopped trusting my mechanic as it's now his son doing the work not him. And theres defently going to be another time I'll be using it.

I would like the factory tool, since i have heard the aftermarkets can be less useful.

Thanks

Posted: Jul 20, 2007 5:30 PM
by BMWCCA2
bimmerboy wrote:Don't worry, i love the '02 far more than you...
There are many who would find that statement hard to believe. ;)

Posted: Jul 20, 2007 8:17 PM
by bimmerboy
BMWCCA2 wrote:
bimmerboy wrote:Don't worry, i love the '02 far more than you...
There are many who would find that statement hard to believe. ;)
Go restore one with your own hands and bleed and sweat more than you ever have before, then get back to me. I enjoy my e28 but the most fun ive had was spanking one in my 02 on route 7 in CT. So before you ever try to tell me that, do anywhere near as much as I have and see if you dont love that car with all of your heart

Posted: Jul 20, 2007 10:29 PM
by Mark 88/M5 Houston
Marty, you evidently do not have any idea who BMWCCA2 is. ;) Do a search on his posts and read a bit. I believe you will come to realize that "he know of what he speaks" when it comes to everything BMW from the Isetta's on.

Posted: Jul 20, 2007 11:46 PM
by bimmerboy
Youre right I don't know. But honsestly I took it as him saying I don't love '02s more than Paddylopez as that's who my first post about it was towards. He for some reason decided to jump in on it, But I will still hold my ground that I love the car pretty damn much. And will can probably go against just about everyone(save maybe Alex von Faulkenhausen.)

Posted: Jul 21, 2007 12:08 PM
by BMWCCA2
It doesn't really matter. I'm glad that anyone still loves a 2002 and all 2002-lovers should be friends. But saying no one can love one more than another person in particular is a lot like saying an original 2002 has no rust. Even the "new" Mobile Tradition 2002tii built from a NOS body shell has flaws....poorly fitted doors, and the wrong (E21) valve cover ( I think they swapped that after I pointed it out), and incorrect hardware all over it. Doesn't mean Klaus Kutcher and his team love 2002s more or less than any of us here...or anywhere. Passion is a good thing. Bravado and hubris? Not so attractive.

Regardless, no one loves 2002s more than Ben Thongsai, because I say so. So there! :moon:
;)

Posted: Jul 21, 2007 3:17 PM
by a
uhhmn, no direct experience with the bucket shims. But , I vaguely remember hearing that somebody used shims from a dual cam VW i4 motor and they were less spendy.

Posted: Jul 21, 2007 6:44 PM
by wkohler
BMWCCA2 wrote:It doesn't really matter. I'm glad that anyone still loves a 2002 and all 2002-lovers should be friends. But saying no one can love one more than another person in particular is a lot like saying an original 2002 has no rust. Even the "new" Mobile Tradition 2002tii built from a NOS body shell has flaws....poorly fitted doors, and the wrong (E21) valve cover ( I think they swapped that after I pointed it out), and incorrect hardware all over it. Doesn't mean Klaus Kutcher and his team love 2002s more or less than any of us here...or anywhere. Passion is a good thing. Bravado and hubris? Not so attractive.

Regardless, no one loves 2002s more than Ben Thongsai, because I say so. So there! :moon:
;)
Don't forget that they made the car into a round taillight car.

Posted: Jul 21, 2007 6:45 PM
by wkohler
a wrote:uhhmn, no direct experience with the bucket shims. But , I vaguely remember hearing that somebody used shims from a dual cam VW i4 motor and they were less spendy.
I was talking to Wiseguy on the phone a while back when I was looking at a car in Austin and he said to use the Volvo shims.

Posted: Jul 22, 2007 12:06 AM
by bimmerboy
youre right, 02ers should unite.
but Ive heard of the Volvo shims, anyone use them before?

Posted: Jul 23, 2007 12:39 PM
by scottiesharpe
I hate removing shims with a pick. You get a little grip on it and then it slips and falls back in. Kind of like the cat trying to get a toy out from under the sofa. Gimme that! Gimme that! (A little Steve Martin humor there.)

Those little magnets-on-an-antenna-stick work better for removing shims.

Posted: Jul 23, 2007 2:11 PM
by wkohler
scottiesharpe wrote:I hate removing shims with a pick. You get a little grip on it and then it slips and falls back in. Kind of like the cat trying to get a toy out from under the sofa. Gimme that! Gimme that! (A little Steve Martin humor there.)

Those little magnets-on-an-antenna-stick work better for removing shims.
"I need a set of cat handcuffs and I need them now."