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I found a Great Color chart for the E24/E28/E12

Posted: Apr 05, 2007 7:24 PM
by BDK

Posted: Apr 05, 2007 7:30 PM
by pdx 528e
That is great!
I found both of my car's colors which are metallics that I don't see very often

Posted: Apr 05, 2007 7:39 PM
by M635CSi
Brad, that's great! Thanks for posting.

Posted: Apr 05, 2007 7:43 PM
by pdx 528e
Isn't it Brad?

Posted: Apr 05, 2007 8:35 PM
by M635CSi
pdx 528e wrote:Isn't it Brad?
Yep.

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 3:00 AM
by Koppenberg
dakar yellow and henna red rock !!!!
can someone 'splain me what the difference is between black and diamant schwarz? is the latter a metallic paint?

neat linko BTW.

slightly off topic ... how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving, handling, acceleration? I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car, no?

ciao, ben

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 3:02 AM
by wkohler
Koppenberg wrote:dakar yellow and henna red rock !!!!
can someone 'splain me what the difference is between black and diamant schwarz? is the latter a metallic paint?

neat linko BTW.

slightly off topic ... how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving, handling, acceleration? I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car, no?

ciao, ben
Diamant Schwarz is a metallic - It is generally lighter, almost like a dark charcoal.

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 5:04 AM
by DRP535
Koppenberg wrote:how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving
You sit much lower and further back. That gives the impression of the car being much bigger than an E28 which of course it is but not by as much as it seems. They don't suffer from front-end steering shimmys or shakes anywhere near as much as an E28 which is good. Ventilation is very poor in comparison even with working A/C. Reflection into the windscreen from the dash in sunlight is a real problem and not easily solveable. You learn to live with it. Windscreen wipers wipe a smaller area and are less effective than E28 wipers. Headroom is much tighter. If you're brushing the rood lining in an E28 you can safely forget about an E24. Gear lever is an unusual distance away from the driver. Unless you have very long arms, you will probably find yourself sitting just a fraction too close to the steering wheel and pedals in order to not have to be reaching for the gear lever. Not an issue in an auto of course (which most of them are) but a bit weird in a manual. I had to fit a short shift kit to fix this and be able to drive it comfortably.
handling, acceleration?
I can't really comment on that because my E24 is an M635CSi while the E28 is a lowly M535i so obviously the E24 shits all over the E28 in the handling and acceleration departments quite comfortably.
I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car?
Yep

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 11:23 AM
by Koppenberg
DRP535 wrote:
handling, acceleration?
I can't really comment on that because my E24 is an M635CSi while the E28 is a lowly M535i so obviously the E24 shits all over the E28 in the handling and acceleration departments quite comfortably.
I don't get it ... aren't they the same engine, similar level of suspension tweeks or do you mean you have the M6 (twin cam 6) compared to the regular engine M535i? Even then the 2 should have similar suspension, no?

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 12:33 PM
by JayM
The M635CSi is the M6 - it is the Euro-spec version with the M88/3 engine. They never bothered to change the naming convention to M6 in Europe. The E28 M535i, as you know, is basically a badge and body-kit (with some suspension mods) on a bog-standard 535i with the M30B34 engine.

(edit to add "E28" just in case anyone thinks I might be referring to the E12)

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 1:15 PM
by M635CSi
Koppenberg wrote:how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving, handling, acceleration? I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car, no?
Driving:
E24; Less fun
E28; More fun

Handling:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Acceleration:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Weight:
E24; Heavier
E28; Lighter

Looks:
E24; Better
E28; Worse

Utility:
E24; Less
E28; More

Joy of ownership (IMO):
E24; More
E28; Less

Posted: Apr 06, 2007 1:37 PM
by pdx 528e
M635CSi wrote:
Koppenberg wrote:how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving, handling, acceleration? I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car, no?
Driving:
E24; Less fun
E28; More fun

Handling:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Acceleration:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Weight:
E24; Heavier
E28; Lighter

Looks:
E24; Better
E28; Worse

Utility:
E24; Less
E28; More

Joy of ownership (IMO):
E24; More
E28; Less
You just sold me on why I love the E28.

Posted: Apr 07, 2007 8:20 AM
by Koppenberg
M635CSi wrote:
Koppenberg wrote:how does an e24 compare with an e28 in terms of driving, handling, acceleration? I'm assuming an e24 is a heavier car, no?
Driving:
E24; Less fun
E28; More fun

Handling:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Acceleration:
E24; Worse
E28; Better

Weight:
E24; Heavier
E28; Lighter

Looks:
E24; Better
E28; Worse

Utility:
E24; Less
E28; More

Joy of ownership (IMO):
E24; More
E28; Less
wow ... I like how you broke it down, yet ended with a cryptic note. I figured all the same as you responded but the e24 is on of the few big cars that I could walk around and keep admiring. I still love my e28 but now that there are so few e24's on the road down here in Oz I am starting to feel an urge to get find before they become stratosphere in price.

In saying that my e28 does most everything I need so well and cost me very little. I guess time will tell. thanks for responding

ciao, ben

Posted: Apr 07, 2007 2:34 PM
by c_spargo
There was a guy with a nice-looking E24 that left a note on my dash the other day, wondering if I wanted to buy it (for $8), and also if I know of any good BMW mechanics in the area (which I thought was funny to put both of on the same not).

That E23 I just bought is Anthracite grey | Anthrazitgrau | #055.

Did all the BMWS come with clearcoat paint? Some almost look like they're not on those pics...

Posted: Apr 07, 2007 10:33 PM
by pdx 528e
c_spargo wrote:There was a guy with a nice-looking E24 that left a note on my dash the other day, wondering if I wanted to buy it (for $8), and also if I know of any good BMW mechanics in the area (which I thought was funny to put both of on the same not).

That E23 I just bought is Anthracite grey | Anthrazitgrau | #055.

Did all the BMWS come with clearcoat paint? Some almost look like they're not on those pics...
I thought only metallics came in clearcoat.

Posted: Apr 07, 2007 11:30 PM
by c_spargo
pdx 528e wrote:
c_spargo wrote:There was a guy with a nice-looking E24 that left a note on my dash the other day, wondering if I wanted to buy it (for $8), and also if I know of any good BMW mechanics in the area (which I thought was funny to put both of on the same not).

That E23 I just bought is Anthracite grey | Anthrazitgrau | #055.

Did all the BMWS come with clearcoat paint? Some almost look like they're not on those pics...
I thought only metallics came in clearcoat.
Ahhh. That makes sense.