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Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 07, 2014 9:15 PM
by sir_gary
Well today I added my 5th BMW to my little collection. Is a 1986 Diamond Schwartz Metallic Black Hartge H5SP that's been sitting in a garage for over 12 years. It's only got 87,000 miles. The engine is out because it threw a main bearing. Needs a new cam but that's all, I've got everything else. 2 sets of Hartge wheels, nice interior,
and oh yes,
it'a an extended range BMW. It holds 26 gallons of fuel. 16 in the main tank and 10 in a second tank mounted behind the rear seat. I've hear even heard of that until today!

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See there ARE real pictures :-P but you missed Santa and the Prefect Woman.....

Does anyone know where I can get an antenna? I've heard that some E30 M3's had this antenna..

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 07, 2014 10:44 PM
by Chimi-Changa
Holy Wow! Incredible aquisition. Congrats and subscribed for pics.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 07, 2014 11:54 PM
by adrian in florida
yes and he lives down the road from me. I guess when my H5S, years ago walked by his M6 at 143 on his GPS he knew he had to get something quicker. Gary and I go way back, I scorched a crank one time during an oil pump failure trying to keep up with him..
Big congrats Gary, thats a rare car with a good pedigree! Gary is a hot foot and a past SCCA champ back in the day. The car could not go to someone more deserving. He will drive the snot out of it! :lol: :cool: :)

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 12:54 AM
by Brent in NZ Hartge 535i
hi nice find
cant see pics etc

but i used to own a hartge head etc H5SK from a japan import 635csi but head was orginally from a e28 i think.
had the nice lhd headers which could not use , i fitted it all into a e34 535i which had a hartge h5s body kit , ex UK

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 11:57 AM
by leadphut
Brent in NZ Hartge 535i wrote: cant see pics etc

x2 :cool:

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 4:49 PM
by Adam W in MN
Pics please! I need to find Scott Epstein's email to send him this link in case he knew the car from Performance Plus in the 80's.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 5:18 PM
by Blue Shadow
we're in eyecandy and there are no pics so this did not happen until there is photographic evidence.






Nice addition to the fleet. What Hartge parts are glued on to this one?

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 6:30 PM
by adrian in florida
Oh Blue Shadow, its the real deal. It is the one and only. You know, single cam, M88 throttle bodies, manuel sport seats, Gary has already spoken to the original owner. Its the shinizzle!!! :D Ofcourse I havent seen it but ive heard about it for years. So maybe it is just a dream. Haygood had it for a while and then it went to Carl... Its probably true because one time I was at carls house and he had all these birds I mean tons of birds. I ask what the hell. He said he was keeping them for a good friend.. I put two and two together and said its not steve haygood.haha

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 6:46 PM
by e30 Alpina B6 3.5
Please pics!! :D

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 8:03 PM
by Justin_FL
So this is an H5SP Sport with the ITBs? From that old thread you bumped Adrian the car sounded like a goner but Gary's pics don't look so bad and make me wonder. Not that it won't need plenty of work, though. Are all the parts there, as the word seemed to have been that the unique engine stuff was long lost.

Guess I'll need to turbo the 535is so I can keep up, if I ever get to another old BMW event again. Had fun with the roadtrips/caravans ages ago. Wonder where those 8-10 years went...

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 08, 2014 11:10 PM
by Das_Prachtstrasse
Very interesting. In for pics and more details!

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 09, 2014 10:29 AM
by leadphut
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Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 09, 2014 11:31 AM
by Mark in Toronto
^^^LOL!

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Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 8:03 AM
by Das_Prachtstrasse
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Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 11:00 AM
by adrian in florida
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Just have faith, its the real deal. The one and only. Not even the pics of the only SP in germany, the zinno car, seem to be an SP. This is the car! Close your eyes and concentrate you can make it happen!!

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 12:04 PM
by Mark in Toronto
Adrian, I want to believe but my mind if full of doubt.

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Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 3:57 PM
by Rich in Tupelo
Any engine pics of this barn find? Nice score..

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 4:17 PM
by harrypalmer
Rich in Tupelo wrote:Any engine pics of this barn find? Nice score..
DITTO! And congratulations!

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 10, 2014 7:24 PM
by leadphut
harrypalmer - i LOL'd.

engine bay pics please!

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 11, 2014 5:30 PM
by glenns0245
I havent been here in a very, very, very long time. I screwed up a trade with Minotaur and never got my hands on an e28, so I left in shame lol

My father called Gary the second I forwarded his email and has confirmed it is, in fact, the Hartge H5SP Sport of long ago. Sounds like it is very good hands according to him. So happy to hear this beast will be restored!

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 12, 2014 12:31 AM
by TheE28Ranch
What a score! I thought this car was a goner! Great to see it's going to be resurrected from the clutches of doom and gloom. Oh I'd sure like to know what it cost in it's current state. Purely from another Hartge owner's informational perspective, you see. I know you won't answer that, but don't.

Glenn, that was relatively so long ago, I almost forgot all about it. RonP bought that H car and took it to a whole new level. Yeah, you might have missed out, but it was just a car. Besides, I got cash, not a car in trade! Haha! :laugh:

Can't wait to see the build thread on this one! Niceness....

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jul 13, 2014 3:52 AM
by Pistonbroke
In for progress and resto pics.

Rare as rocking horse doo doo, well done.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Jun 29, 2016 3:26 PM
by glenns0245
das bump! Has anyone heard where this went from here? Im starting a project and would love to follow up with Gary about the progress hes made. Tried to follow up via email and am still waiting.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 06, 2016 4:46 PM
by Btracy
I used to own this car from 1996-2000. Bought it from a friend who bought it from Scott Epstein at performance Plus.
This was the coolest car ever however it was not congruent with a young family and wife who hated the neck jarring acceleration and tight ride. It had things that were very unique including German language overhead sensor panel
. Larger rear tires. Headlights that you could lower up and down- got disabled. No Cat. Never pass a DMV test but somehow it happened . Thanks to a creative wire twister old school mechanic.
All windows were heavy black tint. Was the OG south Florida drug dealer bling looking car when I first got it. Car was sold to a guy from upper west side NY city. When I asked him where was he going to park it. He said the street. I said it will stolen in a week . I was wrong by two weeks. He gets a call from a parking garage months later when they found his business card. Idiot thief wanted the $1100 Nakamichi tape deck(problematic). My friend put 5G in 87 in the sound system which I blew up to confetti one day playing Beadtie Boys. Glad to see it will live again. One of the coolest cars ever.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 06, 2016 7:44 PM
by Philo
Subscribed... single cam throttle bodies engine :)

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 07, 2016 4:49 PM
by davintosh
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Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 08, 2016 10:43 AM
by RandomCar
From my reading Previous threads in the Archives, I thought this car was Built on a M535I Number?

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 08, 2016 5:41 PM
by Kyle in NO
It only matters with what chassis the car currently identifies, not how it was born.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 11, 2016 1:05 AM
by tig
Moar pics. All these words are not helping.

Re: Barn Find 1986 Hartge H5SP

Posted: Oct 16, 2016 2:32 AM
by BenGerman
Awesome! Waiting for pictures!