Thanks, for pointing that out. I've already done thorough research into this topic, and updating the vanos is part of the plan/budget. Haven't nailed who/how the work will get done, but it will get done.635L6M3 wrote:Awesome build!
Just a heads-up...even though your S54 has very low miles I would consider bulletproofing the vanos system before you drop it in. Cracked/broken hub and loose bolts is a common issue...anywhere from low to high mileage. Beisan has a cheap fix for any of the common issues....pasted below.
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=441481
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
Good question. I've thought it out, but now that you ask I realize I haven't ever written it down...which crazy given how much I harp on people for "Have a plan. Write it down." I'm willing to be a lot of clarification comes from this...so here goes...86GT635 wrote:This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
(your summary is just about right: test/measure, build/modify, paint, assemble, do interior, drive)
- Get car on lift and inspect under-side (I've never seen it because I haven't ever put it on the lift yet!)
- Remove E46 engine mounts from engine.
- Remove S54 oil pan.
- Install M50 oil pan/pump/pickup (still need to source; may do the steps below w/out an oil pan at all).
- Install Marco916's engine mounts on engine and attach tospare sub-frame.
- Build engine/tranny cradle for table-lift. The idea is a cradle (with wheels) that the table-lift can slide under and then lift the sub-frame/engine/tranny in a stable way. I am itching for my first real welding project…
- Hoist 'er up (table-lift)/drop 'er down (4-post lift) for a test fit.
- Verify Marco916's mounts put the engine where I want it.
- Determine what mods to the transmission tunnel are required to fit the 6-speed.
- … (a whole bunch of stuff relating to the brake booster, oil cooler, intake muffler, wiring, …)
- Assemble everything so that the engine can start. The car will not be drivable due to lack of interior and there's no point in really going that far, but I want to be completely sure the engine electronics and accessories are sorted BEFORE the car is re-painted (e.g. brackets fabricated and welded into place).
- Build a dolly that will let me move the chassis around without any suspension (see Kohler/bkbimmer's threads for ideas). Another fun welding project!
- Strip all parts off the chassis.
- Transport the chassis to my body/paint guy. He's got a rotisserie…
- … (a lot of details about sound proofing, rust prevention, under coating, body work, prep, paint) …
- Let cure… for a long time.
- Start re-attaching parts (learning a lot from Kohler's treads on how to phase all this).
- Interior comes last (or close to last).
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
So what you're saying is there's still time to decide on paint color, I vote Montego! Good luck Charlie, this is a real whopper of a build.
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
Great thread..that car looks familar?????
CEK - I have rebuilt M5 (RED tag) steering box available.
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CEK - I have rebuilt M5 (RED tag) steering box available.
PML
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorrycek wrote:Good question. I've thought it out, but now that you ask I realize I haven't ever written it down...which crazy given how much I harp on people for "Have a plan. Write it down." I'm willing to be a lot of clarification comes from this...so here goes...86GT635 wrote:This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
(your summary is just about right: test/measure, build/modify, paint, assemble, do interior, drive)
- Get car on lift and inspect under-side (I've never seen it because I haven't ever put it on the lift yet!)
- Remove E46 engine mounts from engine.
- Remove S54 oil pan.
- Install M50 oil pan/pump/pickup (still need to source; may do the steps below w/out an oil pan at all).
- Install Marco916's engine mounts on engine and attach tospare sub-frame.
- Build engine/tranny cradle for table-lift. The idea is a cradle (with wheels) that the table-lift can slide under and then lift the sub-frame/engine/tranny in a stable way. I am itching for my first real welding project…
- Hoist 'er up (table-lift)/drop 'er down (4-post lift) for a test fit.
- Verify Marco916's mounts put the engine where I want it.
- Determine what mods to the transmission tunnel are required to fit the 6-speed.
- … (a whole bunch of stuff relating to the brake booster, oil cooler, intake muffler, wiring, …)
- Assemble everything so that the engine can start. The car will not be drivable due to lack of interior and there's no point in really going that far, but I want to be completely sure the engine electronics and accessories are sorted BEFORE the car is re-painted (e.g. brackets fabricated and welded into place).
- Build a dolly that will let me move the chassis around without any suspension (see Kohler/bkbimmer's threads for ideas). Another fun welding project!
- Strip all parts off the chassis.
- Transport the chassis to my body/paint guy. He's got a rotisserie…
- … (a lot of details about sound proofing, rust prevention, under coating, body work, prep, paint) …
- Let cure… for a long time.
- Start re-attaching parts (learning a lot from Kohler's treads on how to phase all this).
- Interior comes last (or close to last).
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
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cek wrote:You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
Don't you see what you want to see from sea to shining sea?
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Sibkbimmer wrote:cek wrote:You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
Don't you see what you want to see from sea to shining sea?
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
Progress sir, this board depends on your insatiable narcissism.
Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28
I don't log in here enough. This is going to be intereresting in more then one direction . You , like One Direction right?
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Thanks for the pic and reminder, I agree, that is gorgeous.Mark 88/M5 Houston wrote:I've always liked the BMW Lapisblau and you rarely see it in North America.
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Anyone else worried about cek? Haven't seen him around for awhile.
Cek, you still there?
Cek, you still there?

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*shouts into the void*
Me: "CEK, WHERE ARE YOU?!"
*gets the sheering metal response of an S54 falling off the cherry picker*
Cek: "God DAMMIT"
Me: "CEK, WHERE ARE YOU?!"
*gets the sheering metal response of an S54 falling off the cherry picker*
Cek: "God DAMMIT"
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
Hopefully he came to his senses and got out of this hobby to pursue more worthwhile causes.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
I know where he is. 

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I'm good. Just busy as f**k with a new role at the bookstore. Not that you REALLY care. 

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Thats just because you followed him home. How much milk is in his fridge?oldskool wrote:I know where he is.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
i care, not like the rest of these knuckleheads.cek wrote:I'm good. Just busy as f**k with a new role at the bookstore. Not that you REALLY care.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
I care a lot, we love you, big guy.
Now inspire us, please.
Now inspire us, please.

Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
EventuallyAyrton wrote:Thats just because you followed him home. How much milk is in his fridge?oldskool wrote:I know where he is.

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I hate it when he makes us begbkbimmer wrote:I care a lot, we love you, big guy.
Now inspire us, please.
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I hate it when he lifts his leg.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
Finally got a little time to poke around in the garage. Been a b z b.

Got the clutch and flywheel off so I could get the engine on the stand. Next step is to pull the oil pan so I can attach the mounts and front sub-frame. I'll then construct my engine cradle.

Also received a package of refinished fasteners. Oooh...

And I found a set of 740 trailing arms (thanks @az!). Inbound.

Got the clutch and flywheel off so I could get the engine on the stand. Next step is to pull the oil pan so I can attach the mounts and front sub-frame. I'll then construct my engine cradle.

Also received a package of refinished fasteners. Oooh...

And I found a set of 740 trailing arms (thanks @az!). Inbound.
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Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
Those are berry berry nice. I forgot that the s54 has two cams lol. Thats what happens when M30 is life. It's a double Vanos valve system as well isn't it?
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Yes, there are two Vanos valves.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
Nice. Interesting mounts.
Re: Project 'Blue': Yet another S54 powered E28
Where did you get the refinishing/cadmium plating done?