Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
thanks guys!!
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Looks great! I was glad to be able to see your work first hand.
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Not a huge update but something none the less.
We had found some rotors that were going to work for the brake setup but they were not ideal. So we got some hats from Ireland and then had some rotors made custom from coleman eng.
Here are the rotors when they showed up.

Fronts

Starting to mock stuff up



These are just sorta stuck in there...if you look to the left of the caliper it looks like they are hitting the wheel. The caliper is nut but there is a washer in there to keep the caliper clamped to the rotor. There is room all around.

clearance between wheel and caliper

rear rotor....nothing that exciting here.
[img[https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DqJ9 ... _1830.jpeg[/img]
rear compared to front

We had found some rotors that were going to work for the brake setup but they were not ideal. So we got some hats from Ireland and then had some rotors made custom from coleman eng.
Here are the rotors when they showed up.

Fronts

Starting to mock stuff up



These are just sorta stuck in there...if you look to the left of the caliper it looks like they are hitting the wheel. The caliper is nut but there is a washer in there to keep the caliper clamped to the rotor. There is room all around.

clearance between wheel and caliper

rear rotor....nothing that exciting here.
[img[https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DqJ9 ... _1830.jpeg[/img]
rear compared to front

Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
gawd damn, i said gawd damn!!!

Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Been spending some time on the brakes recently.
Will be running 135 brakes front and rear.
We bought e36 fitment wheels so we could space to fit and clear the brakes.

This is with about 12mm of spacing.

Front brackets were not to bad to make. Piece of 6061 aluminum... Stacked washers just used do to lack of hardware at the time. Brackets will be cleaned up some....edges rounded, etc.
We are using hats from IE with custom rotors from coleman. The hats have been installed INSIDE the rotors to give more clearance at the control arm ball joint.


Kinda hard to tell but nice and centered.


All mounted up.

Now the rears were a MUCH different story. We machined the calipers and removed the mounting ears.

There was VERY little room between the mounting bracket and the backing plate. To keep enough material left in the bracket some was machined out to give clearance at the backing plate.


mounted





The m5 uses a very odd radiator as it is actually two radiators stacked on top of each other. If BMW designed it that way we would love to keep it. But one issue is the m5 radiator is too wide.

Sometimes you have to cut...


The cut part will be completely boxed in.
And there we go...


The engine has been mounted but the trans has had a VERY temp mount. But that needs to change. So...getting going on that.
Just to show how big the e60 guibo is.

Mount will be two parts.
One that bolts to the trans (flat part in picture below) and then the cross brace. There will be a poly bushing in between (update on that when it shows up Tuesday)

Will be running 135 brakes front and rear.
We bought e36 fitment wheels so we could space to fit and clear the brakes.
This is with about 12mm of spacing.
Front brackets were not to bad to make. Piece of 6061 aluminum... Stacked washers just used do to lack of hardware at the time. Brackets will be cleaned up some....edges rounded, etc.
We are using hats from IE with custom rotors from coleman. The hats have been installed INSIDE the rotors to give more clearance at the control arm ball joint.
Kinda hard to tell but nice and centered.
All mounted up.
Now the rears were a MUCH different story. We machined the calipers and removed the mounting ears.

There was VERY little room between the mounting bracket and the backing plate. To keep enough material left in the bracket some was machined out to give clearance at the backing plate.
mounted
The m5 uses a very odd radiator as it is actually two radiators stacked on top of each other. If BMW designed it that way we would love to keep it. But one issue is the m5 radiator is too wide.
Sometimes you have to cut...
The cut part will be completely boxed in.
And there we go...
The engine has been mounted but the trans has had a VERY temp mount. But that needs to change. So...getting going on that.
Just to show how big the e60 guibo is.
Mount will be two parts.
One that bolts to the trans (flat part in picture below) and then the cross brace. There will be a poly bushing in between (update on that when it shows up Tuesday)
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Interesting project but the fab work leaves a lot to be desired, kudos on the can do spirit though!
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Build was delayed for a bunch of different reasons but things are starting to move along again. The goal is to have it for vintage in NC the endish of May.
So...back to some updates. This will be a bit of a hodgepodge until I get on a bit more of a schedule to keep up on updates.
We had taken a cut out of the drivers side frame rail to fit the e60 radiator.

So then we needed to box it back up.



And we wanted AC so to fit the compressor and lines a notch was required on the passenger side.



Will get some custom lines but the e60 ones are a start...

Fitting the air boxes and making mounts





Close to the ABS pump....

Similar setup on the passenger side.
The trans sits so high in the tunnel that there was NO room for the shifter carrier. So it got chopped and mounted a little different.
Start with some raw bits...

Weld raw bits together...I am getting better at TIGing Aluminum but still have a ways to go. It's strong just not always pretty.

VERY short shifter linkage

Some captive nuts welded into the tunnel.

And bolted in


A video of it working....
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5iUQ ... G_8644.MOV
Adapting the E30 to S85 Power steering lines...
Tig some AN6 fittings on each.


Then there will be a short line made to connect the two.


Fit the stock e60 oil filter.
Start with some cardboard


Turn that cardboard into aluminum

Weld and add a gusset (again not super pretty but not terrible...)

Mounted

Extra Steering linkage mount needed due to the extra Ujoint. Had to figure a way to be able to remove the mount so came up with this...


With the engine in the car.

Hard to tell but there is more room than this pic shows.

Sway bar wouldn't fit in the stock location so it was moved in front of the subframe.




Core support is removable so need to make it so it stays in...more captive nuts behind these allen bolts.

So...back to some updates. This will be a bit of a hodgepodge until I get on a bit more of a schedule to keep up on updates.
We had taken a cut out of the drivers side frame rail to fit the e60 radiator.

So then we needed to box it back up.


And we wanted AC so to fit the compressor and lines a notch was required on the passenger side.
Will get some custom lines but the e60 ones are a start...
Fitting the air boxes and making mounts
Close to the ABS pump....
Similar setup on the passenger side.
The trans sits so high in the tunnel that there was NO room for the shifter carrier. So it got chopped and mounted a little different.
Start with some raw bits...
Weld raw bits together...I am getting better at TIGing Aluminum but still have a ways to go. It's strong just not always pretty.
VERY short shifter linkage
Some captive nuts welded into the tunnel.
And bolted in
A video of it working....
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5iUQ ... G_8644.MOV
Adapting the E30 to S85 Power steering lines...
Tig some AN6 fittings on each.
Then there will be a short line made to connect the two.
Fit the stock e60 oil filter.
Start with some cardboard
Turn that cardboard into aluminum
Weld and add a gusset (again not super pretty but not terrible...)
Mounted
Extra Steering linkage mount needed due to the extra Ujoint. Had to figure a way to be able to remove the mount so came up with this...
With the engine in the car.
Hard to tell but there is more room than this pic shows.
Sway bar wouldn't fit in the stock location so it was moved in front of the subframe.
Core support is removable so need to make it so it stays in...more captive nuts behind these allen bolts.
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Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Glad to see work is continuing.
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Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
It was one of the highlights at Vintage in '14 seeing this car, (I'm actually in the background of that photo funnily enough). I'm glad to see it's still slowly coming together.
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
So the S85 radiator is more like two radiators on top of each other and the engine has 4 radiator hoses. Others have used aftermarket radiators but we want to make this as stock as possible so...we are using the stock radiator with VERY modified in/out.
Step one....cut the stock inlets off

Start fitting...




next one

And another...

Fitting hoses


Three out of 4.....

I won't say I am great at tigging aluminum but sometimes things fall into place.

#4

Then there were four...

tack them to the radiator

madness....If you look close each pipe has a bit of a bead roll to keep the hose on.

It still fits...


Step one....cut the stock inlets off
Start fitting...
next one
And another...
Fitting hoses
Three out of 4.....
I won't say I am great at tigging aluminum but sometimes things fall into place.
#4
Then there were four...
tack them to the radiator
madness....If you look close each pipe has a bit of a bead roll to keep the hose on.
It still fits...
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
No pressure, but Vintage?!?!
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Almost there.
Stay on target.
John
Stay on target.
John
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Sometimes any part of a job is impossible. Other times, it's the enormity of it all. There isn't all that much in there that I couldn't do, but to do all of it, and know to do all of it and which parts work with which parts... That's the challenge. Or at least to do in a single lifetime or two.
I know Lao Tzu said "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step." but to do it is different than to talk about it. Kudos guys, keep at it. 
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
Yes the plan is vintage. We have two cars we are working on for that show. This and a REALLY nice turbo m42 2002.
You are 100% correct...gotta have the big picture in front of you but the only way it gets done is to take one step and day at a time.
You are 100% correct...gotta have the big picture in front of you but the only way it gets done is to take one step and day at a time.
Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
For those of us who were unable to make it to Vintage, did this car make it?jakeb wrote:Yes the plan is vintage. We have two cars we are working on for that show. This and a REALLY nice turbo m42 2002.
You are 100% correct...gotta have the big picture in front of you but the only way it gets done is to take one step and day at a time.
Also, it looks like some crazy Swede actually had the same swap in mind, and beat you to the finish! For sale for a paltry 439,000 Krona (~$53,000.)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture ... m3-sweden/
http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/BMW_M3_V ... 415367.htm
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Re: Blunttech / Classic Daily S85 V10 E30 M3 Swap
I don't believe so, no.davintosh wrote: For those of us who were unable to make it to Vintage, did this car make it?


