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How much HP? *Supercharged/Suspension/Exhaust/Brakes - Done*

General conversations about BMW E28s and the people who own them.
djazz
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Post by djazz »

Cool plan.

I'm at 394hp and dreaming of 600+. Local kid just went into bidness selling his SC kit and engine build services.

Everyone is telling me that a turbo won't work on a S62, so I'm thinking two turbos.

It'll take a while money wise but I have plans... :nuts: :D :cool:

Good luck putting everything together. Can't wait to see the vids.

dj
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

After two full days of work on this project, the Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger is in and running perfectly. This car is now a friggin' monster!! It will certainly take some time to aquaint myself with all this new power under my right foot.

I cannot thank Darin and Mark enough for their time and help with this job...they refused to accept any compensation for their efforts. You guys are awesome friends indeed.

I still have some editing to do but here are a couple of videos. The car was not yet fully assembled yet. It is now.

First startup - 3mins 31secs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V115Ppio ... ideo_title

First test drive - 44secs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiYwmScB ... ideo_title

More later... :alright:
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davintosh
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Post by davintosh »

Love it when a plan comes together! Nice work. :up:
oldskool wrote:-I genuflected. . .
Is that something like a curtsy? ;)
Karl Grau
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Post by Karl Grau »

:bow:

(it's probably good D didn't do the test drive based on his speech :laugh: )
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Post by ElGuappo »

Look at that grin. :lol:

You got a stack of rear tire spares on the side of the house?

Seems to be an effective rubber to smoke conversion machine!
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Post by wkohler »

Where's the limp mode troubleshooting?
Dinan e28
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Post by Dinan e28 »

Yah that's sexy.
TurboChris
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Post by TurboChris »

Mmmmm, I used to have a 89 Mustang convertible.....once I got the Vortech and TFS heads and GT40 intake on it it made about 450 hp. Man what a difference. I could take off reasonable in first.....and then BAM, powershift into 2nd and just ride it out sideways with the tires spinning. Loved that car.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

I took the car out yesterday and gave it a good run. As TurboChris said, it takes off nicely in 1st then wants to entirely break loose in 2nd gear. The blower kicks in around 2800rpm...it just flys after that. I am still learning the power band on this car although it seems fairly predictable already.

As for the overall installation of this kit, I would say it went extremely well. Edelbrock estimated about 10-12 hours for install. It took us about 20 hours. We did run into a couple of minor hiccups including a wrong TMAP harness and TB gasket. Mark was able to rig a harness across the intake until they send me another one to go around the back of the engine.

Here's how it looks now:

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ElGuappo wrote:Look at that grin. :lol:

You got a stack of rear tire spares on the side of the house?

Seems to be an effective rubber to smoke conversion machine!
Oh yeah, I have four spare wheels and tires to use up before upgrading to bigger rubber! I keep a full size spare in the trunk...fits nicely.

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I'll see some of you guys at D and C's parties later this week. Please do not expect any exhibitions of speed, etc...I need to keep a lid on this thing!!!
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Duke
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Post by Duke »

John SCB wrote:Please do not expect any exhibitions of speed, etc...I need to keep a lid on this thing!!!
Riiggghhhhhhhhhhhtttttttt............... You just keep telling yourself that. If you wan to "keep a lid on it", remove the supercharger.
MLastovo
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Post by MLastovo »

As John mentioned the installation wasn't without a few speed bumps but I think most of that is due to the fact that neither of us had ever really 'worked' on this motor before or previously done any type of under-hood upgrades. Just like R&Ring an e28 dash, once you have done it the overall process gets very clear and simple.

As for the power, the feel from the passenger seat was quite impressive to say the least. And there is no kidding that once you hit second gear the car wants to GO!

It will be interesting to see how much tread is left on the rear tires when I next see 'em on Friday...

r/
D.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

MLastovo wrote:As John mentioned the installation wasn't without a few speed bumps but I think most of that is due to the fact that neither of us had ever really 'worked' on this motor before or previously done any type of under-hood upgrades.
Darin - Rob from Edelbrock just called. He's expressing the parts out tonight so I should have them in the morning. He has also invited us for a complete private factory tour of their facility in Torrance on July 26 at 0900. They don't do these tours for just anyone asking. Awesome dude...let's do it!!
:alright:
MLastovo wrote:As for the power, the feel from the passenger seat was quite impressive to say the least. And there is no kidding that once you hit second gear the car wants to GO!
Here's one more link to a rather conservative up hill take-off without laying down any rubber. You can hear the spool up start to whine in 2nd gear. Oh boy, is this great!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVjGcyy-Osg

:alright: :alright:
Bryan in SB
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Post by Bryan in SB »

Muuuuuhahahaha

Congrats brother. Now get some suspension on that ride!!!
tsmall07
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Post by tsmall07 »

That's awesome. I can't wait until my mid-life crisis. :laugh:
WVe28
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Post by WVe28 »

tsmall07 wrote:That's awesome. I can't wait until my mid-life crisis. :laugh:
:rofl:
MLastovo
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Post by MLastovo »

John SCB wrote:Here's one more link...
Where are the rest of the vids? There is some good stuff in there. I recall something about washing my tool.

r/
D.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

Bryan in SB wrote:Muuuuuhahahaha

Congrats brother. Now get some suspension on that ride!!!
Thanks for your assistance with the project Bryan. I seem to recall telling you 5 years ago it would happen.. How about you getting me a deal on those suspension parts? I'll need brakes, headers, exhaust system and a clutch too, please. ;)
tsmall07 wrote:That's awesome. I can't wait until my mid-life crisis. :laugh:
Haha...yeah, me too!
:rofl: :rofl:
MLastovo wrote:Where are the rest of the vids? There is some good stuff in there. I recall something about washing my tool.

r/
D.
Still have much video to go through. A good film editing program would be a nice place to start...looking for that now. As for you washing your tool someplace, it sure didn't happen on my watch. It probably occurred after you left my place and hit up Leanne?

I forgot to thank Mike Burger for helping too. He saved us a couple of hours when he pointed out that "extra gasket" that looked kinda important!
:oops:
Jeff B.
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Post by Jeff B. »

Wow- nice job John.

Now just keep that car pointed straight, within the lines , and out of the carpool lane.

I can't wait to go for a drive. Just a friendly reminder -I seem to recall letting you take a test drive in the M5.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

Due to the huge increase in power, it became clear that the suspension needed upgrading. I decided to get the Eibach Pro Kit with lowering springs, struts and shocks. We got it done yesterday at Mark's shop...the job took about 3 hours.

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The car is now lowered approximately 1.5" in front and back.

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Perfect ride, firm but not too stiff. Steering is dialed in and very predictable. Body roll is significantly reduced...awesome handling.

It's great to have a BMW master tech help work on my non-BMW ride...thanks Mark!

The next upgrade will probably be wheels and tires. Oh yeah, I'm running outta money.
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Post by Karl Grau »

If Griff is the kind of dog that likes to ride with his head out the window, you should get him some doggy goggles. Also, maybe put some papers down in case he has an accident when you punch it.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

Karl Grau wrote:If Griff is the kind of dog that likes to ride with his head out the window, you should get him some doggy goggles. Also, maybe put some papers down in case he has an accident when you punch it.
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MLastovo
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Post by MLastovo »

John SCB wrote:...Oh yeah, I'm running outta money.
You can't be outa money, you work for the gubment.

Oh wait, that hasn't happened yet. I also recall some investigative request form that is sitting on my dining room table...

r/
D.
John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

MLastovo wrote:I also recall some investigative request form that is sitting on my dining room table...
Buddy!!!!

:D
Karl Grau
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Post by Karl Grau »

MLastovo wrote: I also recall some investigative request form that is sitting on my dining room table...
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?p=66 ... ht=#664600 :D
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Post by John SCB »

The fun continues.
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John SCB
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Post by John SCB »

Dyno results are in. Did 3 pulls on 11/11/11:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuNIPg ... e=youtu.be

At just under 400 RWHP, this car is uba-adequate as my daily driver. The speed-shop tuner has recommended a pulley swap and other tricks to produce another 40-50 HP. Hhhmmmmm...still thinking about it.
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TurboChris
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Post by TurboChris »

VERY cool, I've had two fast Mustangs in my life and loved em both!
MLastovo
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Post by MLastovo »

YEEEEHAAAAW!

I'm glad I talked you out of that Liberace score you were planning on using.

So far I have donated blood all over both yours and Jeff's SWEET rides (fortunately it wipes up) and have yet to drive either.

When I have been offered the keys I probably shouldn't have said, "Thanks, hold my rum and Coke and watch this..."

Hmmmmm, I wonder if it's me?

D.
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Post by OcCoupe »

John SCB wrote:Okay...I finally produced an entry level video of the car from "New to Now". Thanks to all who have contributed to the project so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujMOT7WgxH0

Nope, this car is not finished yet.
;)
Oh man a dealer's worse nightmare. Did you video tape the whole purchase process from meet and greet to over the curb? I would have thrown you out the moment you pulled out the camera.
Duke
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Post by Duke »

Great consistent numbers. Looks to be running a little fat though, there is more HP.
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