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1995 BMW 540i M-Sport Hellrot Red / M-Cloth Hurricane Manual

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TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

Not exactly pending so it is up for grabs.

However, I am truly sorry for those who have emailed me last night as well as all of today. I will reply and answer all questions very soon. Unless of course the car sells by then to a local. With that said, I am willing to ship and deal with anyone out of state as well.

Best,

Narek
TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

Thank you Charlie for submitting this ad to bringatrailer.com!

Appreciate it!
Euro-M5
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Post by Euro-M5 »

I have done a superficial inspection and a very short Test drive on this car and all I can say to any prospective buyer is to do a comprehensive PPI, if anyone needs any specifics, please do not hesitate to contact me, it is not worth anywhere close to the asking price in its current condition...

for the right price i would buy the car for its rarity since i have the resources to repair and restore all its issues...

BTW, I have bought (3) E34 M5 3.8 Euro cars for under $16,000 each within the last year, (2) of them were 1993 cars with Factory ungraded 6 speed Transmissions...

my self and my partner / buddy own (11) E34 M5 3.8 Euro cars and we know how expensive to repair these cars, the EDC suspension alone is a nightmare, $1800 each for rear shocks and $1400 for Front shocks, to do a proper coil-over conversion cost $4500 for KW setup....

cheers,

Saliya
TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

Deposit Received!

Pending Sale To Local Buyer!

Best,

Narek
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Post by MR 325 »

Euro-M5 wrote:I have done a superficial inspection and a very short Test drive on this car and all I can say to any prospective buyer is to do a comprehensive PPI, if anyone needs any specifics, please do not hesitate to contact me, it is not worth anywhere close to the asking price in its current condition...

for the right price i would buy the car for its rarity since i have the resources to repair and restore all its issues...

BTW, I have bought (3) E34 M5 3.8 Euro cars for under $16,000 each within the last year, (2) of them were 1993 cars with Factory ungraded 6 speed Transmissions...

my self and my partner / buddy own (11) E34 M5 3.8 Euro cars and we know how expensive to repair these cars, the EDC suspension alone is a nightmare, $1800 each for rear shocks and $1400 for Front shocks, to do a proper coil-over conversion cost $4500 for KW setup....

cheers,

Saliya
You say all you've done is a superficial inspection on the car (aka look at it from the outside) but then recommend a PPI and state the car isn't worth its asking price. What do you base these claims on? It sounds to me like you're trying to talk the car down thinking you're going to get some great deal on it.

I know the car and its owner personally. I've touched the car, ridden in the car, and driven the car. I also know the level of perfection Narek keeps ALL of his car to. Your tactics are low class. I hope the car goes to a GOOD and deserving home!
Euro-M5
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Post by Euro-M5 »

I am not interested at all....I can buy a Real E34 M5 3.8 in better condition than that for lot less $$$$, there's couple of them on EBay right now, I am a Prudent investor...

you want to know what's wrong with the car....You asked for it...

Here are the issues with the car:

1. It still has the original Nickasil block and it is out of BMW warranty, it is failing and the car idles extremely rough due to low compression on one or more cylinders, this is how the Nikasil block failure originates. bottom line needs a new block or replacement Engine...

2. EDC shocks are very sloppy on P (Programmed mode)and the seller mentioned that one front and one rear shock is wet, they are original shocks and there are no substantiating proof of preventative maintenance. Actually no maintenance records at all, I have well maintained original E34 M5 3.8 euro cars with leaky shocks and this car will definitely need new shocks immediately...

3. many panels have been repainted, and can see slight color variations....

4. clutch is original and engages way up before slight resistance, which means new clutch needed within the next 1000 miles or less

5. Front brakes are worn out and you can't buy new pads or rotors from BMW since these brakes are Euro specific, BMW needs a Euro title showing ownership to order replacement parts...

6. mysteriously there are no maintenance history on a such a rare car which makes me wonder if the mileage is accurate....clutch is worn out at 83k miles ???

IF YOU LIKE THE CAR SOOO MUCH, YOU SHOULD BUY IT !!!!

cheers,

Saliya
You say all you've done is a superficial inspection on the car (aka look at it from the outside) but then recommend a PPI and state the car isn't worth its asking price. What do you base these claims on? It sounds to me like you're trying to talk the car down thinking you're going to get some great deal on it.

I know the car and its owner personally. I've touched the car, ridden in the car, and driven the car. I also know the level of perfection Narek keeps ALL of his car to. Your tactics are low class. I hope the car goes to a GOOD and deserving home!
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Post by carnutdallas »

Euro-M5 wrote:I am not interested at all....I can buy a Real E34 M5 3.8 in better condition than that for lot less $$$$, there's couple of them on EBay right now, I am a Prudent investor...

you want to know what's wrong with the car....You asked for it...

Here are the issues with the car:

1. It still has the original Nickasil block and it is out of BMW warranty, it is failing and the car idles extremely rough due to low compression on one or more cylinders, this is how the Nikasil block failure originates. bottom line needs a new block or replacement Engine...

2. EDC shocks are very sloppy on P (Programmed mode)and the seller mentioned that one front and one rear shock is wet, they are original shocks and there are no substantiating proof of preventative maintenance. Actually no maintenance records at all, I have well maintained original E34 M5 3.8 euro cars with leaky shocks and this car will definitely need new shocks immediately...

3. many panels have been repainted, and can see slight color variations....

4. clutch is original and engages way up before slight resistance, which means new clutch needed within the next 1000 miles or less

5. Front brakes are worn out and you can't buy new pads or rotors from BMW since these brakes are Euro specific, BMW needs a Euro title showing ownership to order replacement parts...

6. mysteriously there are no maintenance history on a such a rare car which makes me wonder if the mileage is accurate....clutch is worn out at 83k miles ???

IF YOU LIKE THE CAR SOOO MUCH, YOU SHOULD BUY IT !!!!

cheers,

Saliya
You say all you've done is a superficial inspection on the car (aka look at it from the outside) but then recommend a PPI and state the car isn't worth its asking price. What do you base these claims on? It sounds to me like you're trying to talk the car down thinking you're going to get some great deal on it.
I would say you pegged it and know what you are talking about. Thank you. The Nikasil issue is a killer. Not being replaced by BMW under warranty is a huge PO oversight, no matter how many owners ago.
TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

Just FYI Saliya, he's not the only one that thinks your tactics are low, many of us on these boards here and others have the same mindset. Then again, we don't blame you as this is your source of income. If what he said was not true, you would not bad mouth the car to prospective buyers and then shoot me an offer way over their's.

The person whom left a deposit (disclosed) is the exact person that I can see loving and owning this car.

DO not put words into my mouth, or say the compression is low without even having it checked, or go as far as saying the mileage is not accurate. Read my username, read it? Now don't be the opposite, people don't like that.

Now please, for any other contributions you'd like to make, you are more than welcome to contact me personally seeing how you clearly have my phone number. Your are a "prudent" investor, not a true enthusiast.
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Post by RAL »

I have no dog in this fight but as many people know it is not possible to diagnose the Nikasil block deterioration issue by "feel." Short of removing the heads and closely inspecting the liner coatings, you would need to perform compression and leakdown tests. Anyone saying anything else is at best misinformed and at worst trying to mislead. Rough idle on a car of this age could be caused by a number of things, and reflexively assuming the worst case scenario is not warranted based on a seat-of-the-pants evaluation.
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Post by Euro-M5 »

All I could say is GOOD LUCK to the prospective buyer who want's to Pay TOP DOLLAR for a E34 540i with a Nickasil Block which has M Sport Cloth Seats and 1995 M5 Brakes...It's Not My Money....

BTW, why were you so reluctant NOT to bring the car to the shop for closer Inspection, I would have found and disclosed all the issues with the car and bring the value down even further....

So Long,

Saliya
TheGoodGuy wrote:Just FYI Saliya, he's not the only one that thinks your tactics are low, many of us on these boards here and others have the same mindset. Then again, we don't blame you as this is your source of income. If what he said was not true, you would not bad mouth the car to prospective buyers and then shoot me an offer way over their's.

The person whom left a deposit (disclosed) is the exact person that I can see loving and owning this car.

DO not put words into my mouth, or say the compression is low without even having it checked, or go as far as saying the mileage is not accurate. Read my username, read it? Now don't be the opposite, people don't like that.

Now please, for any other contributions you'd like to make, you are more than welcome to contact me personally seeing how you clearly have my phone number. Your are a "prudent" investor, not a true enthusiast.
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Post by alpinamotorsport »

so who bought it? hopefully Ron P, because if the master restores that bitch....I WANT IT!
TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

Euro-M5 wrote:All I could say is GOOD LUCK to the prospective buyer who want's to Pay TOP DOLLAR for a E34 540i with a Nickasil Block which has M Sport Cloth Seats and 1995 M5 Brakes...It's Not My Money....

BTW, why were you so reluctant NOT to bring the car to the shop for closer Inspection, I would have found and disclosed all the issues with the car and bring the value down even further....

So Long,

Saliya
Laughing out loud at the 540i with M Interior and M brakes comment. The car is far from that, read the original post, and if your still not convinced, read Charlie Kindel's pages.

I'll clear this last issue up.

I was never reluctant to bring the car to your friends shop which I won't disclose either. Actually, up until the future owner of this car called and asked for me to take a deposit over the phone I was the one trying to drive down and get a hold of you and the shop owner to set up a time to meet at the shop for any sorts of ppi. I actually drove down to the city to later find out from you that he had already left the shop. (Remember I called you from the Apple Store cause my phone had died?)

I was reluctant, AFTER I had gotten an offer that beat yours. Just take that call as a friendly reminder because I knew you would not pay more than your original offer as that was your MAX according to you. I was not going to bring the car down, have you try to talk me into selling it for a cheaper price when I already had an offer and deposit waiting to be made. Me, being the goodguy that I am, just called to inform you that the car was being sold and double checking if your offer was in fact your MAX, as I'd hate for this car to slip under anybodies hands.

One last thing. You will NEVER bring the value of this car down. Remember a car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Value is relative, to you it wasn't worth it and in fact your were trying to buy it cheaper according to your latest reply, and this sir, is the difference between a prudent investor and an enthusiast, don't be upset.


If you are going to respond with a comment question or opinion, save it until Socal Vintage where you can meet and tell me in person in private, I mean that.

I do not appreciate you cluttering this thread with nonsense and I am sure the future owner shares the same mindset.

Best,

Narek Isayan
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Post by Euro-M5 »

YOU DON'T GET IT, IT'S NOT AN E34 M5 3.6 OR 3.8 EURO, JUST A 540i M WANNABE WITH SOME M BITS, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON, I HAVE ALREADY....I HAVE NO TIME FOR THIS CRAP....GOOD LUCK TO THE NEW OWNER !!!!!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

SALIYA

Laughing out loud at the 540i with M Interior and M brakes comment. The car is far from that, read the original post, and if your still not convinced, read Charlie Kindel's pages.

I'll clear this last issue up.

I was never reluctant to bring the car to your friends shop which I won't disclose either. Actually, up until the future owner of this car called and asked for me to take a deposit over the phone I was the one trying to drive down and get a hold of you and the shop owner to set up a time to meet at the shop for any sorts of ppi. I actually drove down to the city to later find out from you that he had already left the shop. (Remember I called you from the Apple Store cause my phone had died?)

I was reluctant, AFTER I had gotten an offer that beat yours. Just take that call as a friendly reminder because I knew you would not pay more than your original offer as that was your MAX according to you. I was not going to bring the car down, have you try to talk me into selling it for a cheaper price when I already had an offer and deposit waiting to be made. Me, being the goodguy that I am, just called to inform you that the car was being sold and double checking if your offer was in fact your MAX, as I'd hate for this car to slip under anybodies hands.

One last thing. You will NEVER bring the value of this car down. Remember a car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Value is relative, to you it wasn't worth it and in fact your were trying to buy it cheaper according to your latest reply, and this sir, is the difference between a prudent investor and an enthusiast, don't be upset.


If you are going to respond with a comment question or opinion, save it until Socal Vintage where you can meet and tell me in person in private, I mean that.

I do not appreciate you cluttering this thread with nonsense and I am sure the future owner shares the same mindset.

Best,

Narek Isayan
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Post by tig »

Euro-M5 wrote:YOU DON'T GET IT, IT'S NOT AN E34 M5 3.6 OR 3.8 EURO, JUST A 540i M WANNABE WITH SOME M BITS, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON, I HAVE ALREADY....I HAVE NO TIME FOR THIS CRAP....GOOD LUCK TO THE NEW OWNER !!!!!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

SALIYA
You are being absurd. I have no detailed knowledge of THIS car, so I am not commenting on THIS car. I also don't know the seller personally. However, just because the 3.6/3.8 Euro M5s are amazing does not mean the '95 540 M-Sport is not. The '95 540 M-Sport is an amazing car, in different ways than the later E34 M5s. These are very special and rare cars and really no different than the venerable M535i in spirit.

If you think about it, 540 M-Sport is actually the E34 version of the M535i. Both were built in Dingolfing and both are standard 5 series cars with M bits. It could be argued that the M-Sport is "more" ///M than the M535i because it actually has significant mechanically significant M5 bits, such as the EDC suspension. Nobody argues that M535is are "M wannabes" and that they are not special.

Oh, and I think your caps lock key is broken.
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Post by Euro-M5 »

Don't get excited & upset, that is Only "My Opinion", I am not asking anyone to agree....BTW, I don't need to know the History of M Cars, I have owned more than 100 Real M cars with Sxx Engines since 1988 and currently own 10 of them....

Let the NEW owner enjoy the car...

Cheers,

Saliya

You are being absurd. I have no detailed knowledge of THIS car, so I am not commenting on THIS car. I also don't know the seller personally. However, just because the 3.6/3.8 Euro M5s are amazing does not mean the '95 540 M-Sport is not. The '95 540 M-Sport is an amazing car, in different ways than the later E34 M5s. These are very special and rare cars and really no different than the venerable M535i in spirit.

If you think about it, 540 M-Sport is actually the E34 version of the M535i. Both were built in Dingolfing and both are standard 5 series cars with M bits. It could be argued that the M-Sport is "more" ///M than the M535i because it actually has significant mechanically significant M5 bits, such as the EDC suspension. Nobody argues that M535is are "M wannabes" and that they are not special.

Oh, and I think your caps lock key is broken.
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Post by BimmerSultan »

^^^I'm happy for your fortunate ability to own so many cars in such a short period of time, but you keep saying you're done and yet continue to tout yourself and opinion. Maybe it's true, but you come off sounding like a typical used car salesman. Not saying you are one, but definitely sound like one. Your expertise, as you claim to have it, would be highly beneficial if given in a manner that was useful. Sorry that others disagreeing with you seems to really bother you.
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Post by RAL »

I agree with BimmerSultan and it is unfortunate that you find a need to clutter up someone's for sale advertisement. As they say, what comes around goes around.
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Post by toyfiats »

At the risk of further bumping a thread that should die, I did want to say thanks to DCAlbarran and sheebs for their recommendation of a shop. I never did receive a response from the seller, which is understandable based on his response (busy, local sale), but will be filing Bavarian Workshop away as a resource should another car come up in the area.
TheGoodGuy
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Post by TheGoodGuy »

SOLD!

Mods, please feel free to lock this thread.

Thanks!
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