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wkohler wrote:I'd go with A.

Ha. It's actually done. But I haven't sent an email yet. Need some more votes before 7 am cdt.

You should also, just use a pen and put the initials on your business cards and put it in some spot where he might see them.

wkohler wrote:You should also, just use a pen and put the initials on your business cards and put it in some spot where he might see them.

That's just trifling.

Actually what would be really funny is to cross out your entire name and re-write it above or below with the P.E. at the end of it. Sorta like how when people change phone numbers but are too cheap to reprint business cards.

You just need to do a couple.

This stuff just comes to me.

You are a natural, indeed.

I agree with a. Also I like the crossing you name out, but maybe just print a new "card" on some regular copy paper?

I'm assuming you don't have a seal yet? Maybe hold off until you get a seal and then just seal everything you give him.

Congrats! And A gets my vote.

Or allow some co-worker to send out an obnoxious "BOOKER'S A FRICKIN' PE!" email.

Congrats on nailing that test. My older two brothers are also engineers, Chemical and Mechanical. The CE took it five times until he finally passed. The ME took it several times but never passed it as he and his friends met to "study" several days before and ended up drunk. I passed it the first time!
The joke here is the PE stands for Pump Engineer as many people use to look for pumping exercises (you were given several problems to pick 8). When I took it years ago there was an option of "combined" that had all of the engineering concentrations in one booklet (except Industrial Engineering) and you then chose 8 from all of them. I did 2 ME and 2 Civil Engineering problems in the morning and 2 ME and 2 Chemical Engineering ones in the afternoon.
Yes, typically having a PE pays more if you are in a consulting firm as now you can stamp and sign drawings and documents. I haven't done that in years as I'm now a Project Engineer (hey, there's another definition for PE!).

Paul in N FL wrote:Is there much of a salary difference being a PE?

Typically, yes, but also a lot of liability. That stamp carries a lot of weight, for sure.

Congrats....8 hours! I thought my 4 hour PMP sucked.

oldskool wrote:I sure could use some help with this damn Beamter exam when you have a moment. The questions are just soo weird.

Kyle in NO wrote:Congrats on passing your Penis Entry test!

PRIZE:

This.

Congratulations, Patrick!

Duke wrote:Congrats....8 hours! I thought my 4 hour PMP sucked.

You wish it was only 8 hours! It is 2 seperate 8 hour tests (Engineering Intern and Professional Engineer), and usually separated by 2 years of experience (minimum)!

Both tests are a BEAR! It's been about 13 years since I took the PE, and still remeber it being a MF of a test.

booker wrote:Yeah. Just for shits and giggles I used a slide rule in lieu of a TI 30x . The head Procter kept her left eye on me the whole time.

TI 30x? Should have brought an HP 48GX and you might have passed the first time. It's RPN, FTW!

lv600 wrote:

Duke wrote:Congrats....8 hours! I thought my 4 hour PMP sucked.

You wish it was only 8 hours! It is 2 seperate 8 hour tests (Engineering Intern and Professional Engineer), and usually separated by 2 years of experience (minimum)!

Both tests are a BEAR! It's been about 13 years since I took the PE, and still remeber it being a MF of a test.

Pfftf, current Architectural licensing requirements:
Education: 3-5 year degree at an accredited school (either undergrad or grad)
Intern Development Program (work experience): 5,600 hours (+/- 3years)
ARE (exam): 8 parts, 33.5 hours
I. Programming, Planning & Practice: 4 hours
II. Site Planning & Design: 4.5 hours
III. Building Design & Construction Systems: 5.5 hours
IV. Schematic Design: 6 hours
V. Structural Systems: 5.5 hours
VI. Building Systems: 4.0 hours
VIII. Construction Documents & Services: 4.0 hours
Supplemental Exam: (specific for us here in California, but other states have something similar): 3.5 hours.
(This used to be the oral exam where you sat in a hotel room and a panel of 3-4 people peppered you with situational questions relating to all of Architectural practice as well as the codes specific to California. They dropped this in 2010 and made it a computerized exam like the rest of the ARE. I'm on the fence about this as this was always a bear and seemed archaic but OTH, if an Architect can't communicate with 3 other Architects about their profession, how can they stand up in front of a Planning Board and a room full of people and defend their project?)

I got lucky and passed all but 3 parts of the exam the first time out. It took me twice to pass the supplemental. All in all, the time lapse was 1.5 years due to the then timing requirements. Glad as hell not to have to take that thing again. Ever.

Not to take away from Booker's accomplishments; the country needs more practical Engineers at every level. I hope it leads to him upward in his profession.
I'm with Chris: just add the P.E. to his email and see what happens.

tsmall07 wrote:

Paul in N FL wrote:Is there much of a salary difference being a PE?

Typically, yes, but also a lot of liability. That stamp carries a lot of weight, for sure.

I work in the engineering department of a public utility and being a P.E. IS more money and yes, when your name and stamp is on a drawing, the stress goes up too.
Here the salary range is $33.54-$42.31 per hour non P.E. vs $44.45-$56.90 per hour for a P.E.

Manager just noticed the signature. Boss still in the dark.

Congrats! One of these days I may take mine for S&Gs. Working in the engine research field there isn't a whole lot of need for it, but it would definitely be nice have. It might leverage a better salary too...

good job!

to answer some of the questions: I would hire a PE over an advanced degree, all else being equal. I doubt there is much difference in salary for most disciplines except Civil/Structural. As booker says, these days there is very little solo stamping of original plans anyway. The PE does make you more "portable" though and will advance your career which can lead to more money. Engineers's salary growth is pretty bad compared to other professional degrees so every little bit helps.

Congrats again

Thanks everyone! Even Duke.

It's a good point about the 8 hour FE I took 8 years ago. Forgot about that little bugger.

And I agree with all of devinders points, especially the "portability" of my career. I am not looking to change jobs anytime soon, but when I do read job openings at my level a PE is always either preferred or required. So I got that going for me. Which is good.

My boss was so busy today I didn't get a chance to tell him. And I didn't need to copy him on any emails. It's funny. I want to tell him, but I don't want it to be like I'm walking to him with my palm outstretched for a raise.

booker wrote:My boss was so busy today I didn't get a chance to tell him. And I didn't need to copy him on any emails. It's funny. I want to tell him, but I don't want it to be like I'm walking to him with my palm outstretched for a raise.

I had a similar dilemma when I got my Architectural license. I was working for a General Contractor at the time and one of the reasons they hired me was for my Architectural background. My primary position was that of an Estimator, but with me they expanded the in-house Architectural work being done. Even though my license would have little impact on my role in the in company, I had to be very diplomatic and stress to the president that I was not heading off to greener pastures (which was his fear all along and eventually did happen).

I think the key is you have to be pretty neutral when you tell him you're now a P.E. and state that you're happy in your position in the company, that you plan to stick around and that your new license won't change things (if all that is true and the case, of course).
But you better tell him soon before he finds out second-hand; he might think you're planning a move otherwise.

lv600 wrote:

booker wrote:Yeah. Just for shits and giggles I used a slide rule in lieu of a TI 30x . The head Procter kept her left eye on me the whole time.

TI 30x? Should have brought an HP 48GX and you might have passed the first time. It's RPN, FTW!

Yea. The first time I used an abacus. That was a disaster.

" you better tell him soon before he finds out second-hand; he might think you're planning a move otherwise".

X2

Congrats Booker, Kyle has some pretty good beverages pour vous . I am working on a license that I got by signing my name 25 yrs ago.

Congrats!

It's not an easy test, is it? I thought the FE (EIT) was actually more difficult due to the number of subjects you had to cover.