sleepers? who likes what.

davidu · Post by **davidu** » Feb 07, 2013 7:27 AM

davidu wrote:i had a boosted e28 DD for a few years and was fun to shock people, Now it is N/A with 100hp of nitrous , all the stock driveabilty but with 100 extra wheel hp with the flip of a switch, zex kits are my prefernce

grahamular · Post by **grahamular** » Feb 07, 2013 8:33 AM

This is my 'sleeper'. '93 VW EV. Only a sleeper because it's a 5-sp manual, so occasionally I can beat schools buses and box trucks off the line if I catch them at the right time.

-Graham

slammin_e28 · Post by **slammin_e28** » Feb 07, 2013 8:47 AM

T_C_D wrote:m60b40 = 460lbs 286hp
ls1 = 435lbs 350hp
ls2 = 435lbs 400hp
ls7 = 435lbs 505hp

In addition the ls motors are much smaller dimensionally.

Yeah but they're still living in the heyday of pushrod technology.

DOHC or go home.

I respect their output, etc, but I'm not a pushrod kinda guy. I love complex timing components that are prone to failure.

shagrath · Post by **shagrath** » Feb 07, 2013 9:22 AM

slammin_e28 wrote:
T_C_D wrote:m60b40 = 460lbs 286hp
ls1 = 435lbs 350hp
ls2 = 435lbs 400hp
ls7 = 435lbs 505hp

In addition the ls motors are much smaller dimensionally.
Yeah but they're still living in the heyday of pushrod technology.

DOHC or go home.

I respect their output, etc, but I'm not a pushrod kinda guy. I love complex timing components that are prone to failure.

Hence why you LOVE M20's!

T_C_D · Post by **T_C_D** » Feb 07, 2013 9:47 AM

slammin_e28 wrote:
T_C_D wrote:m60b40 = 460lbs 286hp
ls1 = 435lbs 350hp
ls2 = 435lbs 400hp
ls7 = 435lbs 505hp

In addition the ls motors are much smaller dimensionally.
Yeah but they're still living in the heyday of pushrod technology.

DOHC or go home.

I respect their output, etc, but I'm not a pushrod kinda guy. I love complex timing components that are prone to failure.

That argument is no longer even a consideration. The most valid form of comparison of any engine involves 4 criteria.

weight
HP
efficiency
external dimensions

You could also add cost to maintain if that is a consideration.

B7Turbo · Post by **B7Turbo** » Feb 07, 2013 1:18 PM

KillerPM wrote:Ultimate sleeper?

THIS:

With THIS under the hood:

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=108450 (Very Picture Heavy).

Thx Pete, just to add that the experience of having almost 300 HP on the ground in a 2800 LB e28 is magical and priceless

, actually we were to gather few times that we push the limit.

pleasefixitup · Post by **pleasefixitup** » Feb 07, 2013 5:23 PM

T_C_D wrote:
slammin_e28 wrote:
T_C_D wrote:m60b40 = 460lbs 286hp
ls1 = 435lbs 350hp
ls2 = 435lbs 400hp
ls7 = 435lbs 505hp

In addition the ls motors are much smaller dimensionally.
Yeah but they're still living in the heyday of pushrod technology.

DOHC or go home.

I respect their output, etc, but I'm not a pushrod kinda guy. I love complex timing components that are prone to failure.
That argument is no longer even a consideration. The most valid form of comparison of any engine involves 4 criteria.

weight
HP
efficiency
external dimensions

You could also add cost to maintain if that is a consideration.

For me, I rate engines in this way...

displacement to HP / Torque ratio (stock)

weight and efficiency and external dimensions are secondary calculations but displacement to HP is number 1.

From what I've learned, chevy motors aren't too great past 100K and bmw motors are just getting started at 100K...

Coldswede · Post by **Coldswede** » Feb 07, 2013 5:48 PM

chevy motors aren't too great past 100K and bmw motors are just getting started at 100K...

I dunno where you got that figure but Chevrolet engines go far longer than 100k.

Chevrolet engines are actually among the best in the world for power and durability. If the rest of a Chevrolet was as excellent as the engine the company would be in much, much better financial situation.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with push rod small block engine.

pleasefixitup · Post by **pleasefixitup** » Feb 07, 2013 5:55 PM

Coldswede wrote:
chevy motors aren't too great past 100K and bmw motors are just getting started at 100K...
I dunno where you got that figure but Chevrolet engines go far longer than 100k.

Chevrolet engines are actually among the best in the world for power and durability. If the rest of a Chevrolet was as excellent as the engine the company would be in much, much better financial situation.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with push rod small block engine.

I love chevy motors, we have 3 SBC's in the garage, --one being in the 69 camaro.

I got that figure growing up with family that owned shops.

clongo · Post by **clongo** » Feb 08, 2013 8:42 AM

pleasefixitup wrote: From what I've learned, chevy motors aren't too great past 100K and bmw motors are just getting started at 100K...

BMW 6 cylinder motors are just getting started past 100k. BMW M62 and newer V8's are typically trashed due to neglect and cost a small fortune to rebuild past 100k. And the M62's suffer from that wonderful timing chain guide failure that tends to kill the motors past 100k.

slammin_e28 · Post by **slammin_e28** » Feb 08, 2013 8:54 AM

BUT PUSHRODS.

My main thing is I like to keep to the make of car.

BMW engines go in BMWs

Chevy engines go in everything but BMWs.

I'd love to slam a Rover V8 in an e30 to piss people off. Plus I have a BMW I6 in a Rover so it'd be funny.

LiftoffOversteer · Post by **LiftoffOversteer** » Feb 09, 2013 12:27 PM

Ultimate sleeper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCuGNMOHIy4

dangerman · Post by **dangerman** » Feb 09, 2013 3:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Hv_jRQMv8

pleasefixitup · Post by **pleasefixitup** » Feb 09, 2013 4:06 PM

dangerman wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Hv_jRQMv8

hahahaha I know that guy actually.

Real nice guy, doesn't really know what's going on with his car because he's a body man but he got it for a pretty good price already built.

That car is a MONSTER and if you want to talk about boost...holy shit!

He has a lot of camaros actually...

bhopp · Post by **bhopp** » Feb 09, 2013 4:23 PM

shagrath wrote:SR20DETT

Along the same lines, RB26DETT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_RB_engine#RB26DETT

Keeping with that straight 6 theme.

http://youtu.be/tt78wNz-2fk

http://www.drydenmotorsports.com/

dangerman · Post by **dangerman** » Feb 09, 2013 7:49 PM

pleasefixitup wrote:
dangerman wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Hv_jRQMv8
hahahaha I know that guy actually.

Real nice guy, doesn't really know what's going on with his car because he's a body man but he got it for a pretty good price already built.

That car is a MONSTER and if you want to talk about boost...holy shit!

He has a lot of camaros actually...

I saw the build article in Hotrod. There was some inventive things done on that car.

Here's another of my favorites: http://www.thedodgegarage.com/the_reliant.html

Coldswede · Post by **Coldswede** » Feb 09, 2013 8:01 PM

My car is a Bronzit, therefore it is the ultimate sleeper. It is invisible.

pleasefixitup · Post by **pleasefixitup** » Feb 09, 2013 8:30 PM

dangerman wrote:
pleasefixitup wrote:
dangerman wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Hv_jRQMv8
hahahaha I know that guy actually.

Real nice guy, doesn't really know what's going on with his car because he's a body man but he got it for a pretty good price already built.

That car is a MONSTER and if you want to talk about boost...holy shit!

He has a lot of camaros actually...
I saw the build article in Hotrod. There was some inventive things done on that car.

Here's another of my favorites: http://www.thedodgegarage.com/the_reliant.html

With that car, there's stuff to be amazed by everywhere. You should see the trunk!

In person, well I just love that car. The owner is the nicest guy and the car is awesome because it looks pretty bad in person! Under the hood, and in the trunk...well all of that looks amazing. It was quite the $$ build...I think over 100K is in that car.

dangerman · Post by **dangerman** » Feb 10, 2013 8:53 AM

I liked how they ran the intercooler piping through the dash.

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