OPERATION TIGER'S TEETH -**Boltin on MO Power**

mtnman533 · Post by **mtnman533** » Apr 15, 2011 12:44 AM

This is just plain awesome.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 15, 2011 7:20 AM

jcbe34 wrote:Looks nice, but 526 is very optimistic. I'd say your first guess was right on the money.

Yea I know, will see what the actual dyno tells.

slammin_e28 · Post by **slammin_e28** » Apr 15, 2011 9:51 AM

Make sure you get some nice video of the engine on the dyno!

I <3 engine dynos.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 15, 2011 9:59 AM

slammin_e28 wrote:Make sure you get some nice video of the engine on the dyno!

I plan on it, have a Flip and a tripod ready.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 22, 2011 10:29 AM

ITS A GO!

Monday morning at 0800, engine will be on the dyno.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Apr 22, 2011 10:32 AM

cvillebimmer · Post by **cvillebimmer** » Apr 22, 2011 10:39 AM

x2

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 23, 2011 4:05 PM

I just over doubled the HP in the Acadia.

Now the challenge to not forget anything I need so I don't have to return from the dyno on Monday.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 25, 2011 7:56 PM

After ~5 hours of work, engine was finally on the dyno ready to be started for the first time. As seen and heard (back fire through he exhaust) timing is way off. I had also just gotten a call from work and my brief to a GO was moved up....I had to go. Will pull the valve cover off in the morning to check that #1 is TDC on the compression stroke and then re stab the distributer. Tomorrow should be a day of many power runs.

See video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffNCJ_4hGzg

oldskool · Post by **oldskool** » Apr 25, 2011 9:02 PM

DIS-MISSED!!

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 26, 2011 5:34 PM

Quick post

Numbers:
415 lb-ft torque @ 4800
416 HP @ 5800.

On the Holley 600 DP. Ran out of time. I bet there is at least another 70 HP to be squeezed out of it.

BDK · Post by **BDK** » Apr 26, 2011 5:57 PM

What!!!
No Video this time....

ahh, that's BS!!

You know the drill,
No Pics = it didn't happen...

You got the timing issue fixed, obviously....

Great numbers for first try!!!

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 26, 2011 6:27 PM

BDK wrote:What!!!
No Video this time....

Great numbers for first try!!!

Video coming my friend.

Coldswede · Post by **Coldswede** » Apr 26, 2011 6:45 PM

Congrats Duke, you should have one helluva quick and fast car!

tangerineman91 · Post by **tangerineman91** » Apr 26, 2011 6:47 PM

I bet there is at least another 70 HP to be squeezed out of it.

Being able to say that must feel awesome.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 26, 2011 7:15 PM

Thanks guys!

tangerineman91 wrote:Being able to say that must feel awesome.

Yes it does.

So here are the numbers -

No fancy graph, just a dot matrix print out. I was disappointed he did not do from 1500 rpm on up. He claimed he was not able to do it. No matter, will get all of that info on a chassis dyno.

Here is the video - The sparks are from the flywheel ring-gear contacting the steel scatter shield. Both are his and will not be on my car.
http://youtu.be/gBUFgMc-HvQ

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Apr 26, 2011 7:17 PM

I'm sure you'll see large gains once you start tuning it.

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Apr 26, 2011 7:49 PM

RTT...

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 26, 2011 10:44 PM

BDK wrote:You got the timing issue fixed, obviously....

Timing....what a PITA. Lets talk about what hell I went through with timing today.

1. Pulled the valve cover over #1 to determine TDC for the compression stroke. Discovered there were two identical sets of 0-40 degree timing marks oriented the same way ~45 degrees apart (there are others that face the other direction for a pointer on the other side) on the balancer. I had obviously referenced the wrong one. So I marked the correct with white paint.

2. Got it running and discovered that if the distributer was not really tightened down, it would turn and retard the timing. This would happen over 3000 rpm. That screwed up some runs.

3. The mechanical advance weights in the BRAND STINKING NEW BIG $$$$ MSD distributer kept get stuck in the rotor cap. I had to remove the cap and do surgery with a dremel to correct the problem (calling MSD tomorrow). This also screwed up runs when I discovered the advance would not go past 20 degrees and was stuck partially advanced.

So, you can see why I was happy with the 416 HP and got the hell out of there. Will do the rest of the tuning with it in the car and/or a chassis dyno.

Almost makes my EFI days seem easier...............almost.

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 27, 2011 10:01 PM

Bellhousing Alignment.

Checked bore concentricity and parallelism.

The bore alignment was off .020 at the 12 O'clock and .015 at 9 O'clock. Will correct it with a set of .014 offset dowels. Trans mounting surface was withing specs for being parallel.

Starter test fit, looks really good and will easily clear the headers.

Post by **mooseheadm5** » Apr 27, 2011 10:04 PM

I think you may find lots of power after correcting all that mess.

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Apr 27, 2011 10:40 PM

Hey Duke, you are still defending our asses while playing with this car, right?

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 27, 2011 10:41 PM

1st 5er wrote:Hey Duke, you are still defending our asses while playing with this car, right?

Only when the Army does not interfere with my hobbies.

Bimmerguy2002 · Post by **Bimmerguy2002** » Apr 27, 2011 10:43 PM

I just read this thread from page 1 to 9 and i must say, i am throughly impressed with your build, your determination, the money you invested, your sexy attitude towards building what your heart desires. I wish i was only 1/4 the man you were Duke, someday ill meet the man behind the forum name

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Apr 27, 2011 10:45 PM

Duke wrote:
1st 5er wrote:Hey Duke, you are still defending our asses while playing with this car, right?
Only when the Army does not interfere with my hobbies.

Good to know, now I can get back to sleep.

1st 5er · Post by **1st 5er** » Apr 27, 2011 10:49 PM

Bimmerguy2002 wrote:I just read this thread from page 1 to 9 and i must say, i am throughly impressed with your build, your determination, the money you invested, your sexy attitude towards building what your heart desires. I wish i was only 1/4 the man you were Duke, someday ill meet the man behind the forum name

Who the heck is this?

NTTAWWT

sbeckman7 · Post by **sbeckman7** » Apr 27, 2011 11:07 PM

Your build thread has a cooler name than mine

Awesome engine, awesome build. Can't wait till I'm caught up with you!

...may have to consider twin turbos on the V12 to keep up with you..

Post by **Nebraska_e28** » Apr 28, 2011 8:41 AM

I always wondered what real purpose this 'scatter plate' serves? I just put a new one on the 351w I'm working on since the old one was bent.

MicahO · Post by **MicahO** » Apr 28, 2011 8:41 AM

Duke - this has been a fun build to read about - do keep it up!

The past week or so we've been watching "Get Smart" reruns with the kids, so every time I see his car I think about what *could* get stuffed under that little hood.....

Duke · Post by **Duke** » Apr 28, 2011 9:33 AM

sbeckman7 wrote:Awesome engine, awesome build. Can't wait till I'm caught up with you!

Your build is amazing. I am just improving and modifying existing hardware. You are creating something new....big difference.

Nebraska_e28 wrote:I always wondered what real purpose this 'scatter plate' serves?

The purpose is to save your legs if the flywheel and or clutch explodes. The steel shrapnel would pass right through an aluminum bellhousing. The steel scatter shield prevents this. I had to replace the bellhousing anyway going from a five to six bolt block, scatter shield was a no brainer.

MicahO wrote:every time I see his car I think about what *could* get stuffed under that little hood.....

It still amazes me looking at the car in the garage and then the 347 sitting next to it that that engine will be in that little car.

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