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I preordered a Nikon D800 today... Sample Images

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So I preordered a Nikon D800 today...

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http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/ ... /D800.html

Its a 36 megapixel (!) full-frame DSLR for $2999. Nikon may actually finally be passing Canon with their camera's abilities... I'm hoping that the color rendition is still as good as the other Nikon cameras I've owned. I believe we're also now passing almost all of their lenses sharpness abilities with a few exceptions. To truely take advantage of the clarity of a 36mp camera I think you'll need to use prime lenses.
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rmiddendorf wrote:I believe we're also now passing almost all of their lenses sharpness abilities with a few exceptions. To truely take advantage of the clarity of a 36mp camera I think you'll need to use prime lenses.
I don't think you're quite there yet. I think 36 MP will certainly show the full capabilities of whatever you have, however. More than that kind of pixel density and it will start to become iffy. This is exciting times for digital photography though, as the digital stuff is finally getting the same sort of resolving power as really high quality 35mm film. Catching up to the resolving power of medium format film would be the next step I suppose.

That update to the Nikon line has been a long time coming, I hope it works out well for you.
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Wow! The price per pound is off the charts!
You coulda hadda E28!
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Nice! I'm sure you were just trying to one-up my 5D MkII... ;)
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Whoa! Nice work.
I have a lowly Canon T1i, but just ordered a 70-200 f4 IS today.
Good luck with that piece of awesomeness.
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Lucky Bastard
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Re: I preordered a Nikon D800 today...

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Jeremy wrote:
rmiddendorf wrote:I believe we're also now passing almost all of their lenses sharpness abilities with a few exceptions. To truely take advantage of the clarity of a 36mp camera I think you'll need to use prime lenses.
I don't think you're quite there yet. I think 36 MP will certainly show the full capabilities of whatever you have, however. More than that kind of pixel density and it will start to become iffy. This is exciting times for digital photography though, as the digital stuff is finally getting the same sort of resolving power as really high quality 35mm film. Catching up to the resolving power of medium format film would be the next step I suppose.
I respectfully disagree with you Jeremy. I have some pretty expensive Nikon zoom lenses- notably the 24-70 F2.8- that I see softness at certain points in the lens with a 12mp D300s. Now I'm also a wide open shooter so most of my work is done at 2.8 on that lens, however I have four prime lenses and three of them are still sharper than my D300s' chip at 12mp.

Now IIRC (I don't use it often) my 80-200 F2.8 is tack sharp.

So, in short, I'll be curious to see the more of the true clarity of the 24-70 F2.8 on the D800 as I purchased that lens with a full frame camera in mind. And I'll also be curious to see the clarity of my prime lenses on the D800.

FYI my 20mm F2, 50mm F1.4, and 85mm F1.8 are tack sharp. I also have a 35mm F2 that leaves you wanting for a little more sharpness however I got that one pretty cheap so it stays around. Its actually kinda a beater lens on my antique D100.

And I still think that the Tokina wide zooms are the sharpest wide angles out there. I'll just have to keep them on my DX bodies.
Lubehead wrote:You coulda hadda E28!
BTW that's funny. But another E28 isn't covered by a warranty nor is it tax deductible.
Shawn D. wrote:Nice! I'm sure you were just trying to one-up my 5D MkII... ;)
You know I was just hoping for a 16mp full frame camera for $3k. They really doubled my expectations. I hope they didn't push it too far and I also hope that there are not problems with the chip because it is so cutting edge. They're pushing up to the quality of the $19,000 Hasselblad body, although there are many arguments that could be made declaring the 'Blad a better camera for certain applications.
Cory wrote:...but just ordered a 70-200 f4 IS today.
I still think that's a pretty sweet lens. All the optics I own and I don't have a single one over 200mm. I'll have to get something longer before OktoberFest at Mid-Ohio this year...
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Its for my business though so I do have to work it off...
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I'm sticking with the D700. It's great for our needs. Surprised at the price-point, though. Many were expecting this to be well over $3k.
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wkohler wrote:I'm sticking with the D700. It's great for our needs. Surprised at the price-point, though. Many were expecting this to be well over $3k.
I think the D700 is a great camera. I have considered it as well but have had trouble stomaching the fact that is was $2700 for 12mp and the Canon 5D MII was $2000 for 24mp. But at this point I actually like having a DX and non-DX camera in my fleet. The DX is nice because my 80-200 becomes a 120-300. A true 300 is a 450. Plus my continuous rantings about the superb quality of the Tokina, which is DX only, reinforce my need for a DX body.

To be honest if they drop the D700 below $1700 I might consider that as well or instead. I think they would be smart to continue it in their line at a lower price point. I would use a D700 for Real Estate Photography but no way am I going to use a D800. That's only for my higher end needs. 36mp house photos would be a nightmare to archive and putting unnecessary wear on that body doesn't make good business sense to me. My Real Estate clients only like 2.5mp files anyway.

At $3k I think they're attacking Canon head on. Especially with the new video capability. I predict that more people will switch from Canon to Nikon than ever before giving Nikon an increased market share.

I'm also curious to see with what they will replace the D300s. It is also long overdue and, IMO, they probably could launch a D400 with the 16mp chip from the D7000. Its really not much of an increase but it just sounds better.

Anyway I'm just happy to finally see new stuff from Nikon hence all my chatter. I have considered switching to Canon on more than one occasion and I think this is the final nail in the coffin that will stop that thought process completely.
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I still find it amazing that you can go buy a DSLR at walmart for 500 bucks now, it wasn't long ago that it would take a year of saving to pick one up.
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rmiddendorf wrote:
wkohler wrote:I'm sticking with the D700. It's great for our needs. Surprised at the price-point, though. Many were expecting this to be well over $3k.
I think the D700 is a great camera. I have considered it as well but have had trouble stomaching the fact that is was $2700 for 12mp and the Canon 5D MII was $2000 for 24mp. But at this point I actually like having a DX and non-DX camera in my fleet. The DX is nice because my 80-200 becomes a 120-300. A true 300 is a 450. Plus my continuous rantings about the superb quality of the Tokina, which is DX only, reinforce my need for a DX body.

To be honest if they drop the D700 below $1700 I might consider that as well or instead. I think they would be smart to continue it in their line at a lower price point. I would use a D700 for Real Estate Photography but no way am I going to use a D800. That's only for my higher end needs. 36mp house photos would be a nightmare to archive and putting unnecessary wear on that body doesn't make good business sense to me. My Real Estate clients only like 2.5mp files anyway.

At $3k I think they're attacking Canon head on. Especially with the new video capability. I predict that more people will switch from Canon to Nikon than ever before giving Nikon an increased market share.

I'm also curious to see with what they will replace the D300s. It is also long overdue and, IMO, they probably could launch a D400 with the 16mp chip from the D7000. Its really not much of an increase but it just sounds better.

Anyway I'm just happy to finally see new stuff from Nikon hence all my chatter. I have considered switching to Canon on more than one occasion and I think this is the final nail in the coffin that will stop that thought process completely.
Rodney,

I'm not a professional photographer so I can't comment on the nuances of lense soft spots, etc. But what I do know is electronics, and imaging, and one thing you need to consider is how small pixel size in a full frame detector impacts the sensitivity and noise figure of the detector. Basically as pixel count goes up in a given size detector, the size of the pixel decreases. With this decrease in size you also see a corresponding decrease in sensitivity and a increase in the noise figure. Before you make the actual purchase, you should spend some time reviewing the technical aspects of the detector, and how Nikon addresses the sensitivity and noise figure issues.

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Rich Euro M5 wrote:
rmiddendorf wrote:
wkohler wrote:I'm sticking with the D700. It's great for our needs. Surprised at the price-point, though. Many were expecting this to be well over $3k.
I think the D700 is a great camera. I have considered it as well but have had trouble stomaching the fact that is was $2700 for 12mp and the Canon 5D MII was $2000 for 24mp. But at this point I actually like having a DX and non-DX camera in my fleet. The DX is nice because my 80-200 becomes a 120-300. A true 300 is a 450. Plus my continuous rantings about the superb quality of the Tokina, which is DX only, reinforce my need for a DX body.

To be honest if they drop the D700 below $1700 I might consider that as well or instead. I think they would be smart to continue it in their line at a lower price point. I would use a D700 for Real Estate Photography but no way am I going to use a D800. That's only for my higher end needs. 36mp house photos would be a nightmare to archive and putting unnecessary wear on that body doesn't make good business sense to me. My Real Estate clients only like 2.5mp files anyway.

At $3k I think they're attacking Canon head on. Especially with the new video capability. I predict that more people will switch from Canon to Nikon than ever before giving Nikon an increased market share.

I'm also curious to see with what they will replace the D300s. It is also long overdue and, IMO, they probably could launch a D400 with the 16mp chip from the D7000. Its really not much of an increase but it just sounds better.

Anyway I'm just happy to finally see new stuff from Nikon hence all my chatter. I have considered switching to Canon on more than one occasion and I think this is the final nail in the coffin that will stop that thought process completely.
Rodney,

I'm not a professional photographer so I can't comment on the nuances of lense soft spots, etc. But what I do know is electronics, and imaging, and one thing you need to consider is how small pixel size in a full frame detector impacts the sensitivity and noise figure of the detector. Basically as pixel count goes up in a given size detector, the size of the pixel decreases. With this decrease in size you also see a corresponding decrease in sensitivity and a increase in the noise figure. Before you make the actual purchase, you should spend some time reviewing the technical aspects of the detector, and how Nikon addresses the sensitivity and noise figure issues.

Rich
Rich-

You are exactly correct and I agree. IIRC when Nikon released the 24mp D3X it did have some of those issues as opposed to the 12mp D3S. I seem to recall reading that it was pretty much one of those 'if you don't need it get the lesser one' situations.

My deposit is refundable. I am anxiously awaiting to read reviews as I have these same concerns. However, in the past, Nikon typically hasn't released a product that wasn't ready to be used. In that aspect I feel that they're kind of like Apple. In my experience both of these companies don't release something unless its ready to go. So my fingers are crossed.

EDIT: This is also the reason I was surprised that they jumped all the way up to a 36mp camera. I was seriously thinking that they would launch something around 16mp.
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http://vimeo.com/36305675

Damn Rodney, that's one hell of a camera.
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I've had this camera for a few weeks now which has been enough time to get to know it. I was right, btw, that we are pushing the limits of some of even Nikon's professional lenses. My 80-200 F2.8 is a little soft in some areas with this camera. However other lenses seem to be tack sharp and still capable of handling the extremely high resolution.

I will note that this is not an everyday camera. Managing files of this size is unnecessary in a lot of situations and this camera will only be used when the job calls for it. Here are a few samples and the crops are what would be printed at about 300dpi for a 4 by 6 image.

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And an HDR just for fun...

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Image

:rofl:
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mooseheadm5 wrote:Image

:rofl:
Its funny you bring that up because I'm normally a very technical shooter and I don't typically do angles with the camera. ;)
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I like how someone asked if you needed to borrow their tripod.
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Rodney - that HDR shot is downright surreal. Nicely done.
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Jeremy wrote:Rodney - that HDR shot is downright surreal. Nicely done.
Thanks Jeremy!
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Impressed, especially with the last one.

HDR = ???
I want to add it to our Acronymsthread.
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1st 5er wrote:Impressed, especially with the last one.

HDR = ???
I want to add it to our Acronymsthread.
It's the 3rd result on google.
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HDR = High Dynamic Range (photography).
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Is that in-camera HDR?
Really nice.
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Cory wrote:Is that in-camera HDR?
Really nice.
No- its a program called HDRtist for Mac OSX. I tried the Photoshop app but it was weak.
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rmiddendorf wrote:
Cory wrote:Is that in-camera HDR?
Really nice.
No- its a program called HDRtist for Mac OSX. I tried the Photoshop app but it was weak.
Lightroom 4 just arrived and I pre-ordered the LR4 Scott Kelby book. This'll be my first shot at RAW; pretty much, and I know nothing.
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FastFiver wrote:
1st 5er wrote:Impressed, especially with the last one.

HDR = ???
I want to add it to our Acronymsthread.
It's the 3rd result on google.
I like to talk, errr... post. :laugh:
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rmiddendorf wrote:HDR = High Dynamic Range (photography).
Got ya! ;)
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A few more images...

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