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Dieselboost's 524Compound Biturbodiesel
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Andrew 524td
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Very, very high quality work, excellent results
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DieselBoost
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are those e28 doorcards? they are bad ass and i want some!
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DieselBoost
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yes they are.... and stock ones...
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DieselBoost wrote:yes they are.... and stock ones...
nice. looks like i need to keep an eye out for it.
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tryingtobebest
Re: Dieselboost's 524Compound Biturbodiesel
Hello, i love your build, i am a mechanic and have 11.5 sec R32 GTR and a daily E90 335D with a straight pipe ( http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1289276 ) im thinking into joining 524tD family so i have few questions for OP!):
#1 What would be absolute max boost/output of the stock fuel system? (I meant mechanical pump with upgraded lifter pump)
#2 If i throw a bigger turbo with intercooler and head gasket with studs what would be next limitation?
#3 Ever considered going something like 6.7L Holset VGT turbocharger, or something similar? Many in 4G63 community using similar on a 2.0L with manual (boost controlled) VGT fins control!?
#1 What would be absolute max boost/output of the stock fuel system? (I meant mechanical pump with upgraded lifter pump)
#2 If i throw a bigger turbo with intercooler and head gasket with studs what would be next limitation?
#3 Ever considered going something like 6.7L Holset VGT turbocharger, or something similar? Many in 4G63 community using similar on a 2.0L with manual (boost controlled) VGT fins control!?
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DieselBoost
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1: well there is no boost limit like in gas engines, well your engine goes lean, but it does not harm the engine like in gas engines... but there is no reason to go over 2bar with stock injection pumptryingtobebest wrote: #1 What would be absolute max boost/output of the stock fuel system? (I meant mechanical pump with upgraded lifter pump)
#2 If i throw a bigger turbo with intercooler and head gasket with studs what would be next limitation?
#3 Ever considered going something like 6.7L Holset VGT turbocharger, or something similar? Many in 4G63 community using similar on a 2.0L with manual (boost controlled) VGT fins control!?
2: bigger turbo, intercooler and mls gasket + studs.... well next limitation for power is that rotary injection pump, it just dont work in high rpm are like over 4500
ofcourse your clutch will make harakiri if stock
3: yes, but boost operated vnt:s are problematic... and vnt turbos are well known ext pressure makers... and i dont trust those,
My friend has vw caddy 1.9tdi with compound turbos LP turbo is garrett gt40 and HP is small vnt.... lot of problems with that vnt... even that is electrically controlled with ecu... but still it made 400hp
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tryingtobebest
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Thank you for a fast response man!)
So what would rough output be if lets say i put GT30R or GT35R at 2 or 2.2 bar with intercooler and MLS HG?
So what would rough output be if lets say i put GT30R or GT35R at 2 or 2.2 bar with intercooler and MLS HG?
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with stock injection pump, max 200hp.... with 12mm cummins rotorhead up to 340hptryingtobebest wrote:Thank you for a fast response man!)
So what would rough output be if lets say i put GT30R or GT35R at 2 or 2.2 bar with intercooler and MLS HG?
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Mercedes om606 N/A injection pump's timing advance controller fitted to m21d24 pump wheel


From left to right....
My old low pressure turbo (masterpower) is new high pressure one.... changed twin scroll 0.84ar housing to 0.63ar single....
And my new low pressure turbo Holset hx55 with 65mm compressor and 71mm turbine with 13cm3 housing... (this one is only model turbo for fitting, real thing comes before summer)



From left to right....
My old low pressure turbo (masterpower) is new high pressure one.... changed twin scroll 0.84ar housing to 0.63ar single....
And my new low pressure turbo Holset hx55 with 65mm compressor and 71mm turbine with 13cm3 housing... (this one is only model turbo for fitting, real thing comes before summer)

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this project is so amazing! great work!
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DieselBoost
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Well... dids some recearch with 525tds (m51d25) pistons for my m21...
This is too easy, i modified combustion area of the piston to maching m21 precombustion chambers location...
Then i tried m57 con rod with it, there is enough space to make eccentric piston pin bearing... so i will make it 2mm lower than in stock...
With that mod piston will be in same level of surface of block, so no need for thicker head gasket etc...
I did dissection after that, i found that there is enought material for this and no major weakening will occur...
this piston was cracked junk one
I soda blasted all 7 pistons before making... soon i will make this mod for these good pistons...







This is too easy, i modified combustion area of the piston to maching m21 precombustion chambers location...
Then i tried m57 con rod with it, there is enough space to make eccentric piston pin bearing... so i will make it 2mm lower than in stock...
With that mod piston will be in same level of surface of block, so no need for thicker head gasket etc...
I did dissection after that, i found that there is enought material for this and no major weakening will occur...
this piston was cracked junk one
I soda blasted all 7 pistons before making... soon i will make this mod for these good pistons...







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DieselBoost
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Well... Thank you photobucket
I post this here, my friend just started to make scematics for my new copper flame rings, so i can make new oval grooves to my block...
Most of my time goes now with my pc25/31 Honda cbr600 project... next summer it will be turbocharged (What a surprise, a turbo in my toys)
I post this here, my friend just started to make scematics for my new copper flame rings, so i can make new oval grooves to my block...
Most of my time goes now with my pc25/31 Honda cbr600 project... next summer it will be turbocharged (What a surprise, a turbo in my toys)
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I am curious if you finished the M21 with M51 pistons and M57 con rods up and running. Any updates?
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Kopek130 wrote: May 16, 2019 11:16 PM I am curious if you finished the M21 with M51 pistons and M57 con rods up and running. Any updates?
Nope, i had so much to do with my bikes and my life did have different plans again... i actually managed to finish my turbo cbr, and started to look my 524td again... already dismantled some stuff from the car...
In next winter (if my health stays stable) i will take my 28 to my workshop and start to make complete overhauling, interior, new paint job and color and new engine... i think engine will be now 2.4 with firerings and mercedes m pump with 8mm plungers and compound turbos hx55 and hx35... or i go with one large turbo, like hx40... well time will tell...
and one sidejob is making slow progress with my top fuel harley, chassis is ready for painting and fairings will be soon wrapped... engine will wait quite while due to insanely expensive parts...
btw... just finished renovating my e28:s wooden steering wheel and shifter knob...















