Maytag: The Alpine '87 529i

[leadphut]

Rusty foam pad, warped liner, wonky trunk seal, no tool rag, dirty screwdriver handle.

[wkohler]

Small tool kits came rag frei.

[tig]

That's a god-damn brand new trunk seal!

[leadphut]

That's a god-damn brand new trunk seal!

[lizard]

Maytag is now 99.99999% rust free. He did a super job.

Thanks for taking the time to provide all the details of your work, greatly appreciated.

A couple of questions:

1) Was the new paint blended/feathered in with the old paint?
20 Did you use single stage paint? Lacquer?
3) How did you remove the old trunk seal and adhesive?

Thanks in advance!

[e28Sean]

Looking great!

Parcel shelf looks great. Gotta replace that beige cover though. Someone got one lying around? I'll buy it...

I have a blue one in the garage... I can't tell if your interior is blue or black, though...

[tig]

Thanks for taking the time to provide all the details of your work, greatly appreciated.

You are welcome. Glad people find it useful/interesting.

A couple of questions:

1) Was the new paint blended/feathered in with the old paint?
2) Did you use single stage paint? Lacquer?
3) How did you remove the old trunk seal and adhesive?

1) Blended/feathered.
2) I didn't use anything. My paint guy did. You can't get single stage any more, from what I understand. He did base and clear.
3) With a scaper. Then a wire wheel, because there was POR15 under there too.

[tig]

Looking great!

I have a blue one in the garage... I can't tell if your interior is blue or black, though...

Thanks.

You are kidding about the blue, right? Is this the first time you've seen this thread? There's only about 15,000 photos of the interior in it. (Hint: it's black and beige).

[wkohler]

Uhhhh, you can abso-positively-fucking-lutely get single stage paint.

I do know lots of paint guys that like to lie about stuff they don't like to use, so there is that.

http://www.refinish.basf.us/glasurit_paintsystems - Glasurit 22 line
http://www.refinish.basf.us/rm_unohd - RM Uno
http://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refinish/ ... sh/Deltron - go to catalog, single stage and note all the different options. You could do that for all of their solvent-borne lines, actually

Dupont has it too (Naison and Imron and others), but of course, they would rather tell me about their agricultural endeavors than stuff that I actually care about.

[tig]

Uhhhh, you can abso-positively-fucking-lutely get single stage paint.

I do know lots of paint guys that like to lie about stuff they don't like to use, so there is that.

http://www.refinish.basf.us/glasurit_paintsystems - Glasurit 22 line
http://www.refinish.basf.us/rm_unohd - RM Uno
http://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refinish/ ... sh/Deltron - go to catalog, single stage and note all the different options. You could do that for all of their solvent-borne lines, actually

Dupont has it too (Naison and Imron and others), but of course, they would rather tell me about their agricultural endeavors than stuff that I actually care about.

O.

So should I ask my paint guy to source this stuff for Vlad?

[wkohler]

Well, here's what I learned on an exhaustive search trying to find someone to spray my 535is, and also in subsequent talks about the 528i and the 530i...

You're going to want to have him get the stuff that works in the system he's used to using. So, if he uses PPG, DuPont, BASF stuff or Bear Piss, you're going to want to stick within that. Of course, catalysts and hardeners will likely differ too even within the same brand.

If the guy you have doesn't want to or isn't comfortable using it, then if he screws something up, then, well you can imagine where it goes from there. I would imagine that might be the case since he used base/clear on your 528e when even Stevie Wonder would know his hands would turn white if he rubbed it hard enough. I spent the better part of two years trying to find someone that would spray single stage paint and then I decided to part the car out (there might have been an extra reason or two besides that one I listed). The guys are out there. They're just few and far between as so many like how forgiving the base/clear is. Even Mike (the guy painting the M535i) doesn't want to do single stage.

I have found that most of the people in this industry love to put the blame on anything and everything but their screw ups (and they do screw up).

The other thing (there's always another thing) is that zinnoberrot is one of those colors that looks absolutely wrong under a clear coat. Yeah, it's red, but not red red. Not THE red.

[tig]

Well, here's what I learned on an exhaustive search trying to find someone to spray my 535is, and also in subsequent talks about the 528i and the 530i...

You're going to want to have him get the stuff that works in the system he's used to using. So, if he uses PPG, DuPont, BASF stuff or Bear Piss, you're going to want to stick within that. Of course, catalysts and hardeners will likely differ too even within the same brand.

If the guy you have doesn't want to or isn't comfortable using it, then if he screws something up, then, well you can imagine where it goes from there. I would imagine that might be the case since he used base/clear on your 528e when even Stevie Wonder would know his hands would turn white if he rubbed it hard enough. I spent the better part of two years trying to find someone that would spray single stage paint and then I decided to part the car out (there might have been an extra reason or two besides that one I listed). The guys are out there. They're just few and far between as so many like how forgiving the base/clear is. Even Mike (the guy painting the M535i) doesn't want to do single stage.

I have found that most of the people in this industry love to put the blame on anything and everything but their screw ups (and they do screw up).

The other thing (there's always another thing) is that zinnoberrot is one of those colors that looks absolutely wrong under a clear coat. Yeah, it's red, but not red red. Not THE red.

FWIW, he showed me where clear had already been applied on the right front of the car...there is clear over the pinstripe.

I hear you on the zinno. But what am I going to do? Note the driver's door is already clear-coated and it looks great. Super hard to tell it's been painted.

[wkohler]

Hey, it's entirely up to you. If you have someone you're happy with, understands your needs and is willing to work with you to get a result you want, that's like roughly near 98.568794826% or thereabouts of the battle. I really only addressed the idea that single stage paint was unavailable, when in reality it's like totes available. You could bring it up with him and then decide if you like his answer or not. Or if you care? I just think it's important to operate knowing all of your options. All I can say is that if/when the time comes to paint my red or yellow cars, it will be clear coat frei.

[e28Sean]

Thanks.

You are kidding about the blue, right? Is this the first time you've seen this thread? There's only about 15,000 photos of the interior in it. (Hint: it's black and beige).

I have been following the thread, but didn't look back at the other pics. It honestly looked a bit blue on one of my monitors.

[leadphut]

i've always liked the results with sikkens paint. it's a bit more expensive though.

[Mike W.]

Chris is right, guys don't like to use it much, but single stage is definitely still available.

[tig]

Maytag's been driven pretty much daily since beginning of May since Vlad's been under the knife. A few Porsche days here and there, but mostly just doing the 'ol ~30 min commute with Maytag. Fu**ing great car.

Tonight I gave her a bath and noticed the light was looking nice when done so tried to find a place to take some pics. Kohler, I'm not, but these are better than most photos I've taken of this car.

[bkbimmer]

Where did you get the off road springs?

[tig]

Old Man Emu.

[bkbimmer]

Old Man Emu.

Interesting, I wonder if he still makes them? I have some homework this evening...

[davintosh]

Looks great, but could use some Saab moonroof love.

I hope to one day drive a nice example like that. Someday.

[Stevo12]

4x4 status or not, I'd still take it. It's looking great!

[leadphut]

is this the car with the wonky trunk seal?

[Ryki]

Beautiful write up. Funny thing is I'll have a similar situation with my E30s, the white 325is needs some DD loving and the zinnober M3 needs a restoration and rebuild. Cheers to all the updates!

[tig]

Vlad's bumpers were in much better shape than Maytag's. So now that Vlad has Euro bumpers, I've begun the transplant. I did the rear tonight.

Before:






During:




After:






Now I just gotta figure out how to cure the humps:

[wkohler]

Did you swap the VIN tags?

[leadphut]

white cars with euro bumpers look the best and would look really good next to vlad.

[tig]

white cars with euro bumpers look the best and would look really good next to vlad.

You *know* I've considered doing it. I actually had a line on chrome kit.

However, now that I've gone through the process of "doing it right" (mostly), I'm not nearly as motivated. It's a PITA to do right. And expensive.

[cddallara]

white cars with euro bumpers look the best and would look really good next to vlad.

You *know* I've considered doing it. I actually had a line on chrome kit.

However, now that I've gone through the process of "doing it right" (mostly), I'm not nearly as motivated. It's a PITA to do right. And expensive.

Especially when there's a blue euro car on the side yard just patiently waiting for some love.
Don't rush the red car of course, but at the same time, hurry up already!

[leadphut]

white cars with euro bumpers look the best and would look really good next to vlad.

You *know* I've considered doing it. I actually had a line on chrome kit.

However, now that I've gone through the process of "doing it right" (mostly), I'm not nearly as motivated. It's a PITA to do right. And expensive.

Especially when there's a blue euro car on the side yard just patiently waiting for some love.
Don't rush the red car of course, but at the same time, hurry up already!

dood - red, white, and blue euro cars?!? it's only American to complete the German trifecta. ya gotta do it!